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Old July 10th, 2008, 02:06 AM   #881
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^ I think he meant motorway, not highway.
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Old July 11th, 2008, 12:48 AM   #882
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I thought about what would perhaps best be called "expressway" being either a motorway or a 1+1 expressway (whats called "Schnellstraße" in German). It doesn't exist (Its just a normal national road between Reutte and Imst), and it won't do in the next 10 to 15 years.
However, the route is quite good at least for cars but on peak days you easily could wait several hours to get through the Grenztunnel.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 01:10 PM   #883
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Hell yeah.

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A1 Münster Richtung Bremen
Zwischen Kreuz Lotte/Osnabrück und As Vechta 55 km stockender Verkehr wegen Urlaubsverkehr
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A3 Frankfurt Richtung Würzburg
Zwischen As Wertheim/Lengfurt und As Würzburg-Heidingsfeld 16 km stockender Verkehr
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A3 Frankfurt Richtung Würzburg
Zwischen As Goldbach und As Marktheidenfeld 30 km stockender Verkehr
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Old July 19th, 2008, 03:33 PM   #884
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On my return to Bulgaria I drove in rehabilitated German motorways from Ulm to Nürnberg because we had to do some stuff there and then to Passau. The first motorway was shite concrete and not confortable to drive but then we changed the motorway 50 km before Nürnberg and it was very good. I noticed that in Bayern many normal roads are very new and they look damn good and are extremly smooth and hard what I like. there are beautiful new roundabouts with very white concrete and so on, the new nationalroads look good with great black asphalt and not as stony as older German roads, really good job.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 03:51 PM   #885
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Old July 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #886
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but there´s gas here which is really cheap, only 50 cent, and many make their cars ready to be filled with gas besides benzin.

there is really cheap gas in germany too...

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Old July 19th, 2008, 04:56 PM   #887
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Do they use asphalt in Germany or concrete?
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Old July 19th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #888
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both concrete and asphalt are widely used. However, Porous Asphalt Concrete is rare. (unlike the Netherlands or France).
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Old July 19th, 2008, 07:34 PM   #889
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both concrete and asphalt are widely used. However, Porous Asphalt Concrete is rare. (unlike the Netherlands or France).
Because aspahlt is good, especially German asphalt, when it gets old it looks a bit stony but new roads look very good.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #890
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I always like the new surfaced motorways in the former DDR, both concrete and asphalt. Old ones like the A3 near the dutch border aren't that good.
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Old July 19th, 2008, 10:35 PM   #891
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I like that they lately come back to the good asphalt, not use hard concrete. Concrete wil never feel liek asphalt, concrete is even yes, but it is very hard to drive on, asphalt on the toher hand is softer and it feels more like gliding. The only bad thing is that in Germany the new roadstreches don´t last long, I´ve seldom seen a rehabilitated stretch which lasts for example 30 km.
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Old July 21st, 2008, 09:06 AM   #892
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I believe Washington State uses the same type of asphalt as Germany. The asphalt is dense-graded, meaning that instead of having little air pockets inside of the asphalt, it is tight with few air pockets. As a result, water is unable to pass through the asphalt as quickly so it has to be drained off by the side slope. The dense-graded asphalt also has better skid resistance and it is also more durable, but the downside is that it is louder than Open Graded Friction Course asphalt (those porous asphalt used in France and other countries with a warmer climate).

Germany's asphalt, of course, is much better maintained than in Washington, so in pictures you will often see very dark, nicely colored asphalt. Also in Washington, studded snow tires are used in the winter which damage the asphalt quite a bit, and that's why you will often see a lane with a lighter shade where the tires travel.

Now what I don't get, is how the Germans can make their highways so neat and clean.
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 03:26 AM   #893
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Horrible. I'd go out and start playing badminton or sth..
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 11:00 AM   #894
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Two years ago or so they reported more than 100km between Frankfurt and Nuremberg...
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 11:31 AM   #895
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both concrete and asphalt are widely used. However, Porous Asphalt Concrete is rare. (unlike the Netherlands or France).
What kind of concrete is the most widely used in Germany? SMA or DAC?
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 11:49 AM   #896
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SMA is relatively new I believe, and the Germans are not known for replacing concrete on a very fast pace (they don't need to because concrete lasts very long). So I think I have to go with DAC, it's a quite standard pavement, used widely over the world on freeways, main roads and secondary roads. It's also the standard pavement on Dutch roads, except for motorways where PAC is standard. However, some German freeways also use the old concrete slabs, examples; A29 Ahlhorner Heide - Wilhelmshaven or A1 Hamburg - Bargteheide.
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 01:16 PM   #897
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sorry, i just had to post it


highway around Kassel

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highway around Kassel

Great cars and great highways! It can't get any better than that.

By the way, does anyone know the width of the pavement markings in Germany? The normal dashed ones in Washington are 4 inches and the widest ones are 8 inches. those I see in other countries though are often much wider.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 12:25 AM   #899
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By the way, does anyone know the width of the pavement markings in Germany? The normal dashed ones in Washington are 4 inches and the widest ones are 8 inches. those I see in other countries though are often much wider.
Normal ones: 15 cm
widest ones 30 cm
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Old July 28th, 2008, 01:18 AM   #900
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Great cars and great highways! It can't get any better than that.

Yes. Especially this white Audi.
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