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Old July 31st, 2008, 09:44 AM   #921
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Ahhh found one here.



Also, why the 60 kmph on the right lane?

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Old August 1st, 2008, 01:49 PM   #922
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Is the german autostrade system the biggest in Europe?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 01:57 PM   #923
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Also, why the 60 kmph on the right lane?
Because of trucks. There seems to be a steep slope there, so it is safer if the trucks go slower when they have to brake (or even stop) in case of emergency IMO.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 02:09 PM   #924
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Because of trucks. There seems to be a steep slope there, so it is safer if the trucks go slower when they have to brake (or even stop) in case of emergency IMO.
it's here:


this is the view from the other direction:
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Old August 1st, 2008, 02:20 PM   #925
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Is the german autostrade system the biggest in Europe?
Depends on definition. The French, Spanish and German systems are about equal in length. However, the Spanish building pace is much higher, so the Spanish system will become the third largest in the world during the next decade.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:06 PM   #926
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after? the US and? Brazilian, Canadian, Chinese, Japanese?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:08 PM   #927
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US -> China -> Spain -> Germany/France

The others don't have 10.000 + kilometers.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:09 PM   #928
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By the way, Canada is often cited for having like 17.000 kilometers of freeway, however, I counted them all, and I got around 5.800 kilometers. But there are many long distance 4-lane highways, but they're not freeways (no grade separated intersections).
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:12 PM   #929
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Where is Italy?
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:27 PM   #930
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In Southern Europe
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:29 PM   #931
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^ Like Portugl. Italy has just under 10,000 km (9,000 or so).

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US -> China -> Spain -> Germany/France

The others don't have 10.000 + kilometers.
Last time I checked, Brazil had 9,999.1 km. I'm sure 900 m have been added since.
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Old August 1st, 2008, 03:32 PM   #932
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actually, I was expecting that kind of answer beside the desired one
thanks verso
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Old August 1st, 2008, 05:05 PM   #933
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By the way, Canada is often cited for having like 17.000 kilometers of freeway, however, I counted them all, and I got around 5.800 kilometers. But there are many long distance 4-lane highways, but they're not freeways (no grade separated intersections).
All European nations have supplimentary high grade roads too though don't they? Germany has its B roads, Britain has its Duel Carriageways etc etc.
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Yes, but not all of those are up to motorway standards. Mostoften, a German Bundesstraße is a ordinary 2 or 3 lane highway without grade separation. Some Bundesstraßen are better than some Autobahnen on the other hand.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 02:38 AM   #935
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So what's the German roadway hierarchy? There's the Autobahn, then comes...?
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 04:48 AM   #936
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A Autobahn
B Bundesstraße (Federal road)
L Landesstraße (Bundesland road, called Staatsstraße (state road) in Saxony (S) and in Bavaria (St))
K Kreisstraße (District road)
(Gemeindestraße) (Community road)

But some Bundesstraßen and Landstraßen and even Kreisstraßen can have a "autobahnähnlicher Ausbauzustand" (nearly like autobahn) and are usually called Schnellstraße or Kraftfahrstraße or Gelbe Autobahn. It's a bit complicated and pretty confusing and not so clear as it is in other countries.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 08:26 AM   #937
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So when it's "like-an-autobahn" does it mean that it meets the requirements of the autobahn except it doesn't have the designation?

Also, does anyone know the minimum turning radius and the maximum grade for the autobahn?
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 09:54 AM   #938
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A Autobahn
B Bundesstraße (Federal road)
L Landesstraße (Bundesland road, called Staatsstraße (state road) in Saxony (S) and in Bavaria (St))
K Kreisstraße (District road)
(Gemeindestraße) (Community road)

But some Bundesstraßen and Landstraßen and even Kreisstraßen can have a "autobahnähnlicher Ausbauzustand" (nearly like autobahn) and are usually called Schnellstraße or Kraftfahrstraße or Gelbe Autobahn. It's a bit complicated and pretty confusing and not so clear as it is in other countries.
now i see who was our idol while we've been giving names to roads in Coratia
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So when it's "like-an-autobahn" does it mean that it meets the requirements of the autobahn except it doesn't have the designation?
Yes.
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Old August 2nd, 2008, 11:24 AM   #940
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And unless signed otherwise, every road with separated direction lanes ("baulich getrennte Richtungsfahrbahnen") has no general speed limit. Theoretically, there could exist a 1+1 Kreisstraße were it would be allowed to drive 200+ km/h. Fortunately, I've never seen one.

The difference between an Autobahn and a Gelbe Autobahn (because the signing of most other roads except Autobahnen is yellow) is that the lanes are often a bit more narrow, curves can have smaller turning radius, etc. It's almost like an Autobahn but a bit narrower. Just imagine a Swiss motorway and your quite close to a Gelbe Autobahn. Except the speed limit, of course.


@ Road hierarchy:
In Bavaria, a Kreisstraße is signed (on milestones and maps) with the abbreviation of the Landkreis and a number (e.g. Kreisstraße 5 in Munich would be "M 5"). Is this different in other Bundesländer (because you write "K", Patrick)?
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