[D] German Autobahns • Deutsche Autobahnen

[ChrisZwolle]

Verso, you have to get in line for that...

[Verso]

[radi6404]

why do you want kill me?

[Verso]

B/c only you think that the Yellow Autobahn on the photo couldn't qualify as motorway.

[Nephasto]

In any country in the world it would... but in Bulgaria, a country with one of the worst road networks in the EU it wouldn't!!

No comments...

[radi6404]

Originally Posted by Nephasto

In any country in the world it would... but in Bulgaria, a country with one of the worst road networks in the EU it wouldn't!!

No comments...

that´s quite bullshit man, it hasn´t oen of the worst roadnetworks man, don´t talk bullshit if you know a shit, all national roads have good pavment and are becoming motorways. the new motorwys are designwise IMO better than most other european motorways. Especially the Struma motorway. I said the Gelbe Autobahn can be a real motorway but it looks old.

[Rebasepoiss]

It's hard for me to believe that all this complaining comes from a Bulgarian guy....Really, Radi, I'm waiting for pics of Bulgarian roads.

[radi6404]

Originally Posted by Rebasepoiss

It's hard for me to believe that all this complaining comes from a Bulgarian guy....Really, Radi, I'm waiting for pics of Bulgarian roads.

why don´t you go to the Bulgarian motorways thread, there are plenty of pics, or maybe visit my wikipedia article of the Struma motorway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struma_motorway

[Patrick]

here's the map, now working

source: www.autobahnatlas-online.de

Blue = Autobahn
Green = Gelbe Autobahn
Black Name = City bigger than 50.000 inhabitants (tried to get all on the map, except for agglomerations where there's not so much space to write it all down)
Grey Name = some cities smaller than 50.000 inhabitants with Autobahn/Gelbe Autobahn access to compare the situation to some bigger cities
Brown Name = Bigger city on the other side of the border



A Gelbe Autobahn in general is for local importance to amend the Autobahnen or as bypasses for middle and bigger cities

[ChrisZwolle]

Cool. Added to the first post.

[Nephasto]

Originally Posted by radi6404

that´s quite bullshit man, it hasn´t oen of the worst roadnetworks man, don´t talk bullshit if you know a shit, all national roads have good pavment and are becoming motorways. the new motorwys are designwise IMO better than most other european motorways. Especially the Struma motorway. I said the Gelbe Autobahn can be a real motorway but it looks old.

You're the one who's always saying that every coutry's roads sucks, besides Bulgaria... you act like Bulgaria has the best roads in the world, and the rest of the countries roads are just lame compared to Bulgarias allmighty roads.
And even if that was true (which certainly isn't) it wouldn't give you the right to do arrogant remarks every now and then.

So please stop acting like a 14 year old (which you probably are), and act with a bit more respect towards other countries road systems.

[radi6404]

Originally Posted by Nephasto

You're the one who's always saying that every coutry's roads sucks, besides Bulgaria... you act like Bulgaria has the best roads in the world, and the rest of the countries roads are just lame compared to Bulgarias allmighty roads.
And even if that was true (which certainly isn't) it wouldn't give you the right to do arrogant remarks every now and then.

So please stop acting like a 14 year old (which you probably are), and act with a bit more respect towards other countries road systems.

No i am not, i say when a raod is good but i just don´t like german roads, the ride on German roads isn´t the best and the asphalt looks like some gravel when it is raining, that´s why i don´t like German roads.

[ChrisZwolle]

Deutsche Autobahnen sind die Beste der Welt!

[radi6404]

Originally Posted by Chris1491

Deutsche Autobahnen sind die Beste der Welt!

No Chris it would read

Deutsche Autobahnen sind die besten der Welt.

Bulgarische Autobahnen sind vielleicht nicht die besten, aber die schönsten der Welt.

Just kidding

[ChrisZwolle]

Come on, Bulgaria has one of the most underdeveloped road networks in the EU.

[Verso]

Well, radi obviously isn't saying that Bulgarian roads are the best in the world (except Struma, which is logical, b/c it's new), and he doesn't have to be from Germany to have a right to criticize other countries' roads either (although actually he does live in Germany ), but you can't say some road doesn't deserve to be called motorway just b/c it's old, and doesn't have fucking awesome shiny crash barriers (lol ). Only if the PAVEMENT is bad, then it cannot qualify as such, even if it meets ALL the other criteria. Ok, that Yellow Autobahn on the picture doesn't seem to have a fence, which is quite crucial for deserving to be called motorway, but everything else is ok, IMO. Yes, the crash barrier is a complete eyesore, also the trees and bushes could be cut from time to time, plus the pavement looks OLD, but NOT BAD! A motorway doesn't have to be shiny to be called like that. And the motorway from Sofia towards Turkish border (which you actually don't even consider motorway, lol ) looks very straight, and even has 6 lanes, but everywhere I've seen it so straight, the landscape was flat! Now please stop complaining just b/c of some crash barriers, b/c they are almost NEVER shiny (especially not on old motorways; and they even don't have to be old for that), b/c you're ruining our pleasure when looking at them.

[ChrisZwolle]

Ok, that Yellow Autobahn on the picture doesn't seem to have a fence, which is quite crucial for deserving to be called motorway

Really? We never use fence in the Netherlands... only in areas with wildlife.

b/c you're ruining our pleasure when looking at them.

So true. every thread is spoiled that it aint shiny or horny of hot enough...

[Verso]

Patrick, that's an awesome map! Although I have to say that, for example the Munich (München) INNER Ring doesn't deserve to be called Autobahn, whether Yellow or Blue or whatever. I know it's officially a road reserved for motor vehicles (Kraftstraße, or sth like that ), but: not everywhere, I think, it has quite some traffic lights, plus the speed limit is just 60 km/h. It's a great city ringroad, but even when I go from Salzburg to Zurich, I use the entire A99 (the outer Ring) to bypass the city. The one through Karlsruhe is great, and so is the one from Koblenz to Bonn, for the rest I don't have a clue.

[ChrisZwolle]

The B54 from Enschede to Münster is mostly 2+1 lanes and is a fast connection from East Netherlands to the A1. Speed limit is 100 or even 120 is some stretches.

[Verso]

Originally Posted by Chris1491

Really? We never use fence in the Netherlands... only in areas with wildlife.

I dunno, I thought so.