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Old September 24th, 2008, 09:35 AM   #1161
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I remember that winter tyres must be used on Autobahn, am I right? If so, during what period?
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Old September 24th, 2008, 10:32 AM   #1162
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I remember that winter tyres must be used on Autobahn, am I right? If so, during what period?
They are not studded are they?
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Old September 24th, 2008, 01:12 PM   #1163
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I remember that winter tyres must be used on Autobahn, am I right? If so, during what period?
"During winterly circumstances" if I remember correctly. Quite something where everybody has it's own opinion on.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 01:35 PM   #1164
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It's often "recommended" to switch to winter tyres (no spikes) when the temperature drops below 7 degrees Celsius during the day, although there are also arguments against that.

It's not even mandatory to switch at all - however, if you're involved in an accident, there will be repercussions by using "inappropriate equipment", primarily on the insurance side of things (as in they won't pay).
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Old September 24th, 2008, 01:36 PM   #1165
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"During winterly circumstances" if I remember correctly. Quite something where everybody has it's own opinion on.
Thanks for that! I hope October is not supposed to be snowy
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Old September 24th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #1166
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Thanks for that! I hope October is not supposed to be snowy
Normally not. Most people switch to winter tyres during November, except for those living at places of high altitude.

Of course you can never rule out a freak weather occurrence. 3 weeks ago we had snowfall down to 800m altitude which you normally wouldn't expect at all in early September.
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Old September 24th, 2008, 08:39 PM   #1167
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Normally not. Most people switch to winter tyres during November, except for those living at places of high altitude.

Of course you can never rule out a freak weather occurrence. 3 weeks ago we had snowfall down to 800m altitude which you normally wouldn't expect at all in early September.
I'm not going to change this year. Last 2 years, I changed... and for nothing. If this winter is the same as last two, I will survive those 10 days of snowy wheather!
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Old September 24th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #1168
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Do they need the bridge to access the tunnel construction site?
Yes, something like that.
They need the bridge to transport the excavated material to the other side of the town. There is no other way, because the construction site is surrounded by an residential area - and that's the reason why they build the tunnel.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #1169
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They are not studded are they?
I think studded tires are allowed only in Sweden and Finland and in particular circumstances in Austria. Elsewhere are not allowed.
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Old September 25th, 2008, 02:29 PM   #1170
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I'm not going to change this year. Last 2 years, I changed... and for nothing. If this winter is the same as last two, I will survive those 10 days of snowy wheather!
winter tires are not only for snow but for cold.

summer tires lost their grip in cold weather (bellow 5-10°C), so it is safer to drive with winter tires on dry but cold roads surfaces...
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Old September 25th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #1171
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Yes, something like that.
They need the bridge to transport the excavated material to the other side of the town. There is no other way, because the construction site is surrounded by an residential area - and that's the reason why they build the tunnel.
what about temporary pontoon bridge?

(the northern M0 bridge in hungary which crosses an island in the river was built by accesing the island by a pontoon bridge...)
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Old September 25th, 2008, 05:59 PM   #1172
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I think studded tires are allowed only in Sweden and Finland and in particular circumstances in Austria. Elsewhere are not allowed.
They are allowed in the Baltic countries too.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:43 AM   #1173
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I think studded tires are allowed only in Sweden and Finland and in particular circumstances in Austria. Elsewhere are not allowed.
So what kind of tires do they use? Or are there roadway deicing substances?
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Old September 26th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #1174
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Winter tires without spikes.
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Old September 27th, 2008, 04:00 PM   #1175
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Work has started on the Jagdbergtunnel (sorry, Link in german only).
The tunnel will be 11.8 km (7.33 miles) long and will have 6 lanes. It is being built to replace the current curvy 4-lane stretch that goes around the mountain by 2012.

Here's a video of the symbolic 'first blast':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe_jy8LYgkI

Picture looking west, construction site (and future tunnel entrance) is in the center of the image:
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Old September 27th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #1176
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Are you sure this tunnel will be 11,8 km long? Wikipedia says 3,1 kilometer. That's the new A4 right?
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Old September 27th, 2008, 05:50 PM   #1177
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Yes, A4 near Jena. There is a weblink on the wiki page saying "Informationen der Deges zum Ausbau der Autobahn A4"
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Old September 27th, 2008, 06:06 PM   #1178
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Are you sure this tunnel will be 11,8 km long? Wikipedia says 3,1 kilometer.
3074 m northern tube
3070 m southern tube

11,8 km is the whole new stretch...

More (in German):
http://www.deges.de/downloads/A4_Leutratal_Web.pdf
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Old September 27th, 2008, 07:45 PM   #1179
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Sorry guys, I messed it up. 3,1 km is right, of course.

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Old September 30th, 2008, 01:25 AM   #1180
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Sorry guys, I messed it up. 3,1 km is right, of course.
11,8 km tunnel...is long hahaha. 3,1 makes more sense. What is the longest tunnel in the world?
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