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Old November 9th, 2008, 02:08 PM   #1321
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This amount is meant probably only for certain section of road... it is still quite a lot
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Old November 9th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #1322
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they're 82 milion people in germanny ,, thats a lot people and there's only 165.000 cars on a day? no thats not posible i have road it 1000 times and i have seen how many cars its not normal
there are 165.000 vehicles per day on that stretch between Köln-Ost and Köln-Dellbrück (in both directions).
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Old November 9th, 2008, 02:45 PM   #1323
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The motorways I describe in Auckland tend to have very busy arterial roads adjacent to them and all of them are urban motorways cutting right through the city (much like the situation seen in America).

The amount of choice of travel in Germany is impressive though be it public transport or road based. Good on you Germans.
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Old November 9th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #1324
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they're 82 milion people in germanny ,, thats a lot people and there's only 165.000 cars on a day? no thats not posible i have road it 1000 times and i have seen how many cars its not normal
There are loads of cars in Germany, but what we're talking about is a certain stretch of Autobahn
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Old November 9th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #1325
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they're 82 milion people in germanny ,, thats a lot people and there's only 165.000 cars on a day? no thats not posible i have road it 1000 times and i have seen how many cars its not normal
To put this simply for you...

Your response is what we like to call an anecdotal and has little factual basis. Average daily traffic has nothing to do with the number of people in a country specifically, more the number of people that:

#1. Drive
#2. Drive down that particular stretch of road
#3. Are driving down that section of road at a given timepoint.
#4. Have to use that road due to a lack of alternatives.
#5. Any other reason that might adversely impact on traffic volumes.

If a road experiences constant traffic 22 hours of the day, then traffic volumes will seem less when compared to a road that sees a huge peak in traffic for 6 hours of the day but is relatively quiet for the rest of the day despite having a similar average daily usage. Thus perception and anecdotal evidence are inadmissible when considering a serious analysis of traffic volumes.

Considering the busiest road in Germany (I believe it is the A100 in Berlin) only carries ~200,000+ a day in each direction, one has to believe that traffic volumes on a given Autobahn in Germany tend to be less than seen in other countries due to the variety of choice in travel (be it by railway or by road).

Please feel free to look up the actual statistics rather than just listen to every other German forumer quote them back at you and have you spew unsubstantiated reports at them in return.
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Old November 12th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #1326
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A drive on the A31 Autobahn (...) a road that's known for speeding.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 12:40 AM   #1327
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A drive on the A31 Autobahn in northwestern Germany. From Exit Meppen with the B402 to Interchange Dreieck Bunde with the A280, a distance of 50 kilometers. This is a road that's known for speeding, though there was little traffic this day.


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The asphalt is old. and it´s laughable that the car on the video break during recording, how bad for mercedes.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 04:30 PM   #1328
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In bulgaria roads are better? sure sure , holland as te most motorways for a little country in te world.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #1329
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Who is talking about Bulgaria, why do you always think when I say something is bad that I think Bulgaria is better, do you think I am that dumb and always compare with Bulgaria, ti doesn´t matter where it is, it can be in the richest coutry in the world, the asphalt would still be old! There are better and worse roads than on this video in Bulgaria.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 06:28 PM   #1330
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Every country has it's own bad roads, even Germany, Bulgaria and the Netherlands.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #1331
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That's the first time I've seen Radi write something sensible.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #1332
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The asphalt is old. and it´s laughable that the car on the video break during recording, how bad for mercedes.
The oldest part of the Autobahn in the video, the A31 dates back till the '80s. I don't know what the lifespan of asphalt is, but this could explain a lot.
And the car isn't a Mercedes, it's a Brabus Rocket. I wouldn't call it laugable, it is the result of extreme power and new technologies so breaking down is not a suprise. This car is based on the Mercedes CLS, but with a power of 730 hp, a torque of 1,320 Nm (electronically limited to 1,100 Nm) and a topspeed of 366 km/h (227 mph) it is the world fastest streetlegal sedan. With a pricetag of €348,000 (without taxes!) this car could be yours. Driving on the Autobahn wouldn't be the same anymore.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #1333
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I didn't get what Radi wanted to say with that car. Which car, what?
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Old November 13th, 2008, 09:33 PM   #1334
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The car (Brabus) gets a breakdown at the Autobahn after driving quite fast.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #1335
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Where do you guys see any broken-down car? Which second?
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Old November 13th, 2008, 09:59 PM   #1336
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Not in my video, but in the one 909 posted. Where the car turns into a rest area (raststätte)
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Old November 13th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #1337
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Oh, that video. I didn't watch it for long.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 01:54 AM   #1338
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So how fast were you going on that strech?

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A31 Autobahn Meppen - Leer

A drive on the A31 Autobahn in northwestern Germany. From Exit Meppen with the B402 to Interchange Dreieck Bunde with the A280, a distance of 50 kilometers. This is a road that's known for speeding, though there was little traffic this day.


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Old November 15th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #1339
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About 140 km/h or 87 miles per hour.
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