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Old July 23rd, 2007, 05:57 PM   #121
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Around Kempten, there is "Autobahndreieck Allgäu" but NO highway goes from Kempten to Memmingen ... is a normal "Schnellstrasse" where you can drive 100 - 130 km/h.

i will make a few pics on saturday,with the highways around Kempten
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 07:54 PM   #122
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Only the A7 connects Kempten with Memmingen. There are some alternatives, but those are only local Kreis or Landsstraßen.
Don't you mean the B12 Kempten -> Isny? (westward)
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Old July 23rd, 2007, 08:22 PM   #123
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Only the A7 connects Kempten with Memmingen. There are some alternatives, but those are only local Kreis or Landsstraßen.
Don't you mean the B12 Kempten -> Isny? (westward)
Around Kempten is good Highway, but just for about 10 km, after that, at the highest point, near "Weitnau" it´s just a "B12" in direction Isny

i think im wrong, i´m surely leave the main highway around Kempten, to come to a "wannabe" highway (direction Kaufbeuren - Augsburg)

i will keep my eyes open this weekend, and make some pics
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Old July 30th, 2007, 01:05 PM   #124
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for Chris (and all the others)

A96 austrian border in direction Memmingen. on the sign you see Kempten, i take this exit




then we get on the " 12 " .... 59km with nearly no autobahn

this may will save time in 2 years. then you wouldn´t have to drive through Isny (30 km/h)



here the 12 gets an BAB980



3 lanes ... not bad



we get one the "Autobahnkreuz" and will get on the " 7 "
for a few meters we have 7 lanes (both sides)



here i have to leave and get on the " 12 " (again?!)



possibility to don´t build a 2nd lane ...
sign means "try to drive right please"



here we are .... i will leave here now. but i don´t think your interested in raods lower classified than "Bundesstrasse"
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Old July 30th, 2007, 02:29 PM   #125
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radi might be interested in the quality of the asphalt on the land- and kreisstraßen

thanks for sharing your pics

EDIT: I forgot we're in Bavaria, so not Landstraße, but Staatsstraße

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Old July 30th, 2007, 05:16 PM   #126
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Nice to see those pics. I was once on vacation in Isny, but that was like 10 years ago, so i don't remember much, except that it rained almost 3 weeks in a row.
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Old July 30th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #127
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@ Energy2003: nice pics. But why did you drive in the middle lane when the right one was free?

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here i have to leave and get on the " 12 " (again?!)
Yup, it's still the B12. At Waltenhofen where the A980 starts it turns north, runs through Kempten, intersects with the A7 west of Kempten and goes on to the A96 at Kaufbeuren. Then it's replaced by the A96 and east of Munich by the completed parts of the A94. The B12 ends at the czechian border north of Passau.
Many Bundesstraßen have those gaps, coz parts of them where replaced by Autobahnen.
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Old July 31st, 2007, 11:36 AM   #128
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Nice to see those pics. I was once on vacation in Isny, but that was like 10 years ago, so i don't remember much, except that it rained almost 3 weeks in a row.
maybe, i can help your brain





not offtopic, because it shows the "12" in ISNY
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Old July 31st, 2007, 11:47 AM   #129
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@ Energy2003: nice pics. But why did you drive in the middle lane when the right one was free? .

so, i was the driver so my position on photo was correct by driving right!


Patrick: radi might be interested in the quality of the asphalt on the land- and kreisstraßen

between A96 and Weitnau a lot of km got new material, i´m no geologic, so i don´t know
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Old July 31st, 2007, 12:10 PM   #130
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I noticed that in Germany they started to repair the lots of old roads, well it´s allready time, many raods have different pavment every 5 m, you can see strokes with tar (maybe there were potholes once) etc. But now the time came to repave some older roads, it also doesn´t look very nice to see roads like I described.
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I'm going for a drive tomorrow in Germany

My route will be: A30 - A1 - A29 - B210 - A31, so via Nordhorn, Osnabrück - Oldenburg - Wilhelmshaven - Aurich - Emden, and back to the Netherlands.
I will take my camera with me
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Old August 1st, 2007, 09:30 PM   #132
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Bad Bentheim - Rheine - Osnabrück - Cloppenburg - Oldenburg - Varel - Wilhelmshaven

This serie goes from the Dutch-German border near Bad Bentheim/Oldenzaal via the oldfashion A30 to Osnabrück, where we take the A1 north. The section near Osnabrück has been widened to 2x3 lanes for 12km. After that, we see a busy 2x2 Autobahn with lots of trucks. After 72km, at Dreieck Ahlhorner Heide, we take the A29 north to Oldenburg, we continue past Oldenburg all the way to the end in Wilhelmshaven, virtually in the North Sea. A few pics of the A29 near the Wilhelmshavener Kreuz in south direction are also included, but then 2 of 3 sets of batteries were dead, i found out. So no pics of the B210 from Wilhelmshaven to Emden badly.
But still, a nice 222 pics to enjoy!

[img]http://i11.************/63bpser.png[/img]

I sorted the pics out by roadnumber, in chronological order.

The A30, 63 photo's

The A1, 53 photo's

The A29, 106 photo's

I hope you guys enjoy this Niedersachsen tripreport
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Old August 1st, 2007, 09:41 PM   #133
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German system is the best in Europe and probably in the world, but it 's boring.
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Old August 1st, 2007, 11:03 PM   #134
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wow Chris fantastic report!! and this picasa thing works excellent!

interesting, Germans didn't cut the grass and bushes, like Italians

question: what those signs mean?
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Those U-signs means "Umleiting" or detour. All Autobahnen have such an Umleitung/detour, in case of long traffic jams or road closure's, you can follow these signs to the next Autobahn auffahrt (exit) or follow them for a significant length. They are pretty well signed.

I think it's a great system, but few people actually use it.

The advantage is, that German police don't have to post a detour in case of an accident or something. They are already there.
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Old August 2nd, 2007, 08:26 AM   #136
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German system is the best in Europe and probably in the world, but it 's boring.
My thoughts exactly
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what do you mean by saying it is boring? just curious thanks Chris for this series, it gave me some memries back when I was in Wilhelmshaven a couple of years ago

love these signs

but sometimes I wonder if a racer would recognize this sign while riding at 250km/h

tomorrow I'll try to take some pics on the A3 / A48 / A1 / A602 / A64 from my hometown via Koblenz and Trier to the Luxemburgian border (to the next gas station )

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I noticed that in Germany they started to repair the lots of old roads, well it´s allready time, many raods have different pavment every 5 m, you can see strokes with tar (maybe there were potholes once) etc. But now the time came to repave some older roads, it also doesn´t look very nice to see roads like I described.
that's so true, sometimes some bad roads are really just like a patch rug (Flickenteppich)
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tomorrow I'll try to take some pics on the A3 / A48 / A1 / A602 / A64 from my hometown via Koblenz and Trier to the Luxemburgian border (to the next gas station )
The gas station on the Luxemburgian A1 near Wasserbillig has a great view over the valley. In the direction of Trier.
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I usually go to Wolters in the town of Wasserbillig (because Match Supermarket is just next to it, to buy some beer from belgium), but I'll check it out, thanks for the tip
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