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Old January 13th, 2009, 08:02 AM   #1641
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Sorry, I no understand you Engrish, you learn better English please first, then you come ask question about building motorway in Hanburg.
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Are near Hamburg buliding some new autobahns ? In north of Hamburg ? or something else?
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure Chris has an answer for you.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 09:46 AM   #1642
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Yeah, A20 is being build near Lübeck. Should eventually extend all the way to Drochtersen, and then continue as A22 to near Westerstede or something in that area.

And Radish, I think you should take a look at your English first before you give such a comment...
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Old January 13th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #1643
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Have they yet started with building the bridge to Denmark over the Fehrmannbelt (or what's it's name again?), or are they still preparing?
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Old January 13th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #1644
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No, and I think it's gonna take at least another decade.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 10:33 AM   #1645
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Die Spitzen von Union und SPD haben sich auf ein zweites Konjunkturpaket verständigt. Es hat ein Volumen von rund 50 Milliarden Euro für 2009 und 2010.
A stimulus package for the German economy, including 18 billion euros for infrastructure. What are the planned projects?
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Old January 13th, 2009, 06:18 PM   #1646
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thanks for answer btw. to my english , sorry but i still study and Radish, other peoples understood me , i don't know why you didn't understand that.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 08:11 PM   #1647
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Yeah, A20 is being build near Lübeck. Should eventually extend all the way to Drochtersen, and then continue as A22 to near Westerstede or something in that area.
This route would be ideal to approach Hamburg from coming from northern parts of the Neterlands. Too bad I need to get to HAM in ten weeks rathen than 10 years
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Old January 14th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #1648
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Radi, if you think German roads are too hard, use a car with a proper suspension the next time. Those lowered GTIs and 3 series suck anyway...
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Old January 15th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #1649
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Radi, if you think German roads are too hard, use a car with a proper suspension the next time. Those lowered GTIs and 3 series suck anyway...
No, how comes it Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria and Slovenia have very soft roads with great grip because the asphalt is both, very soft and a bit rough so that the ride is saver, in Germany it´s not like that.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 02:30 AM   #1650
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These countries' motorways aren't as congested as the German ones, so they can have different priorities. But who needs "soft" motorways at all? What's really important is the number of lanes and how wide they are, signage, environmental and safety standards, and noise reduction for the people who live next to it.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 03:59 AM   #1651
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No, how comes it Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria and Slovenia have very soft roads with great grip because the asphalt is both, very soft and a bit rough so that the ride is saver, in Germany it´s not like that.
German roads will last much longer than those in Slovenia, France, Hungary, etc. Their materials are tougher and more durable, so that's part of the reason why they feel harder.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 01:13 PM   #1652
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These countries' motorways aren't as congested as the German ones, so they can have different priorities. But who needs "soft" motorways at all? What's really important is the number of lanes and how wide they are, signage, environmental and safety standards, and noise reduction for the people who live next to it.
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Why don´t you just understand, the roads don´t need to be that hard, there are roads also in Bulgaria or in Slovenia or in Hungary which last pretty long, too, on the other hand there are German roads that break fast and have to be fixed after 2 - 3 years. you know what even Austrias new otorways and main roads are softer. I am sure Germany could build at least as soft nationalroads as Austria, because austrian roads usually last very long, I hope they will someday.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 03:06 PM   #1653
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check the new M0 east of Budapest...
it has a hard thick concrete pavement for heavy truck (and car) traffic...

thats not that soft and smooth but very durable...
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Old January 15th, 2009, 05:57 PM   #1654
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Old January 15th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #1655
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rippachtal.de from user Fierfly (Firefly) is also an excellent site
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #1656
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Introducing tolls on german motorways would give a huge boost of money but it would direct some trafic on normal roads...
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:45 PM   #1657
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Tolling roads makes no sense.

First of all, the posession of a car is already taxed quite high in European countries. Second, the use of it is being taxed by disproportional high excise taxes. Hence, there is already far more money brought in than is being spend on road infrastructure. They just keep spending that money elsewhere and keep saying there's not enoug funding for roads. When you will see a toll, the same will happen, they redirect it to other non-road projects and keep saying there isn't enough money.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 01:17 PM   #1658
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Last Spring I was with my girlfriend on the way from Hannover to Paris. I have to say, that the german autobahn is very funny and interesting to drive. I love it, but in belgium and france I need attention not to fall in sleep....




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Old January 17th, 2009, 02:37 PM   #1659
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you are just crazy. If I compare driving in Germany with driving in France (I am German), driving in France is just more comfortable and you actually have the possibility to enjoy the surroundings. I also usually need less fuel when driving in other countries than Germany. It does not make a big difference if I am driving 190-200 in Germany or 130-140 in France; maybe just minutes - and if I can save lots of fuel - it's worth it.
I hope the general speed limit for Germany's motorways will come soon - 130 is enough!
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Old January 17th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #1660
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I hope the general speed limit for Germany's motorways will come soon - 130 is enough!
Agree. Last November I drove on A9 between Bayreuth and Berlin and despite the fact that motorway had 3+3 profile for almost whole lenght, most people were driving 110-130 km/h (even on non-limited sections). That's the most economical speed which makes travelling fast enough IMO.
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