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Old August 30th, 2007, 04:58 PM   #161
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You can make asphalt in virtually every color.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 05:06 PM   #162
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You can make asphalt in virtually every color.

Including red
In UK on some emergency lanes they use red asphalt.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #163
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Nothing special, all Dutch cycle paths are red asphalt. Must be thousands of kilometers.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 05:11 PM   #164
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Because it´s asphalt explains why it aktually loks very good and very modern instead of shit concrete. But why is it so bright if it is asphalt?
Men, do you have concrete-phobia?
On every thread you write some post you always mention two things:
a) how bad concrete is comparing with asphalt (not true both have advantages and disadvantages)
b) how great Struma Motoway is. (I don't know, never been in Bulgaria )

Is your opinion about concrete based on some research or you just don't like look of concrete?
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Old August 30th, 2007, 05:18 PM   #165
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Men, do you have concrete-phobia?
On every thread you write some post you always mention two things:
a) how bad concrete is comparing with asphalt (not true both have advantages and disadvantages)
b) how great Struma Motoway is. (I don't know, never been in Bulgaria )

Is your opinion about concrete based on some research or you just don't like look of concrete?
somewhere,he said that he dont like that because its bumpy,its concrete,not so smooth,and not black.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 11:13 AM   #166
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Because it´s asphalt explains why it aktually loks very good and very modern instead of shit concrete. But why is it so bright if it is asphalt?
1. It's not so shiny and new and oh-my-god-who-knows-what
2. Picture was taken in cloudy evening.
3. Both.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 02:09 AM   #167
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german autobahnen are amongst the best in the world, if not the best already. it's good to see some good pics.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 03:21 AM   #168
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i wouldn't say they are the best. Germany has one of the best motorway networks in the world, but not all motorways are modern - there are still old fashioned ones. i like excellent signalization there and wide lanes and good ammouint of exits- not to rare, not to often
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 01:14 PM   #169
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Indeed. But really a lot of German Autobahnen are very outdated, short exit and entrance lanes, while the speeds on the Autobahn is high, French, Dutch, Spanish and other motorways are much better designed as German ones. Most Autobahnen have a very old concrete surface too.
A high speed limit doesn't make a motorway good. It's the alignement which do.

And don't forget, there are always construction works, whereever you travel.

But the signage is the best in the world in my opinion, however Dutch signage is very good too (on motorways, not on other roads). And the German drivers are generally disciplined, in oppose to Belgian or Italian drivers.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 03:57 PM   #170
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There aren't many short entrance/exit lanes left. Most are 250m long.
Germany's federal government doesn't spend enough money in it's Autobahn network, so that many large projects like the upgrading of hundreds of kilometers each of A3, A8 and others to 6/8 lanes which already are in the pipeline will still take some time.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 04:15 PM   #171
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Yeah but a lot of entrance ramps have sharp bends, so you can't accelerate much. That's no problem for the German muscle cars, but not every car has 150 HP.
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 06:17 PM   #172
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ok, i appreciate those signs when you're are coming close to exit (similar to coming close to railway crossing) - i don't know if they are set at all german motorways, but i know they are often there and it is good -> that's kinda excuse for short exit ramps.

but the shortest ramps are in Italy! disaster!
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Old September 2nd, 2007, 07:58 PM   #173
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On the Polish A4, there used to be 90 degree turns on the "motorway" (which felt like riding a gravel road).
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 01:37 PM   #174
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I've seen some 90-degree turns on German autobahnen yesterday, but that was on autobahnen with construction works.

German autobahns are mostly good, but could be safer with:

- more lightning on it
- better designed ramps
- longer incoming lanes

That would justify the high limits a lot better.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 04:34 PM   #175
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I've seen some 90-degree turns on German autobahnen yesterday, but that was on autobahnen with construction works.

German autobahns are mostly good, but could be safer with:

- more lightning on it
- better designed ramps
- longer incoming lanes

That would justify the high limits a lot better.
also better smoother pavment which isn´t so rough.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 11:53 PM   #176
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but they are colorful www.autobahn-bilder.de













somehow, I often see pictures of excellent roads having one and the same color in other countries. Seem the germans to be the only one who take other colors/materials when working on a Autobahn?

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Old September 4th, 2007, 12:26 AM   #177
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No, the Autobahns simply have diferent colors because they just repair some parts and lines of the motorways, in other countries they usually repair the whoe section if there appear holes, no matter if they are on one lame. I am wondering how old the asphalt on German autobahns is, because in bulgaria asphalt which is 7 years old is very black so the asphalt there must be 30 years old, isn´t it? Not the black parts ofcourse.
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Old September 4th, 2007, 09:25 AM   #178
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So there are now 5 lanes of traffic on the A3 near Köln during rushhour? What are the effects on traffic jams?
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Old September 4th, 2007, 06:56 PM   #179
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i am not very often in Cologne (maybe three or four times a year) and then I take another road to get into the city. But I often hear that that section is jammed on the radio in the traffic news (especially northbound, the right side on that pic: "A3 Frankfurt Richtung Oberhausen zwischen Autobahndreieck Heumar und Köln-Dellbrück" (or Köln-Mülheim or Leverkusen, because of construction works (widening the part between Kreuz Köln-Ost and Kreuz Leverkusen up to 4 lanes; they have to rebuild every bridge across the Autobahn there because they are too short as they were build when the A3 originally had 2 lanes + shoulders (and later the shoulders were repainted to the third lane)))) is very common

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Old September 4th, 2007, 07:20 PM   #180
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Now that is a complex sentence!
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