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Old April 11th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #1881
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Yeah, I was listening to the traffic info yesterday @ WDR x, and there was a 30 km traffic jam on the A1 between Wuppertal and Münster (don't know the exact location), but the alternative, similar length route A43 was completely free of congestion.
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Old April 11th, 2009, 08:19 PM   #1882
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Did you use an "U-route"? Those are there in case of a big jam or a road closure.
Yes. The first time, i was around Hagen on A1 and wanted to reach A2, I took side roads by myself. I saved time because I saw vehicules that passed me before passing me again on A2.

Second one, for this 9 km "Stau", there was warning of Autobahn services, so I left Autobahn and followed the U-route. Perfect, lead me to the end of the Stau, 10 minutes stuck instead of probably 2-3 hours. No one vehicule on this U route, everybody was on the Autobahn! Nowadays, there are GPS and maps available all over, but people preferred to stay on the road burning fuel or diesel in jams for nothing. I was a bit shocked and happy to go around so well...
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Old April 11th, 2009, 08:28 PM   #1883
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Well maybe we're to unflexible. We plan to go on the A 2, and then we go on the A 2, no matter what... Must have something to do with the German "Ordnung"!
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Old April 12th, 2009, 07:04 PM   #1884
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Then it must be my philippine genes that I often don't drive the route I plan and make alternative routes while driving
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Old April 15th, 2009, 09:11 PM   #1885
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B50 neu: Startschuss für den Lückenschluss

Spatenstich für Großbauprojekt Ende April
Platten/Wittlich Großer Bahnhof an kleiner Brücke: Der offizielle Startschuss für den Bau der B50 neu zwischen der Autobahn bei Wittlich und dem Flughafen Hahn findet Ende April an einem Wirtschaftsweg statt. 2016 soll der zweite Bauabschnitt des insgesamt gut 330 Millionen Euro-Projekts für den Verkehr freigegeben werden.


(har) Es ist zwar nur eine Wirtschaftswegunterführung, die unweit der Gemeinde Platten gebaut werden soll. Der Baubeginn für dieses Brückenbauwerk gilt jedoch als offizieller Startschuss für die Arbeiten zum zweiten Bauabschnitt der Bundesstraße 50 neu zwischen Platten und Longkamp (Landkreis Bernkastel-Wittlich).

Spatenstich ist am Montag, 27. April. Dazu wird unter anderem Bundesverkehrsminister Wolfgang Tiefensee erwartet. Und das nicht ohne Grund. Denn sein Ministerium beteiligt sich mit 250 Millionen Euro am Bau der rund 25 Kilometer langen Strecke. 20 Millionen Euro wird das Land Rheinland-Pfalz zahlen, das unter anderem durch Ministerpräsident Kurt Beck und Verkehrsminister Hendrik Hering vertreten sein wird.

Nach heutigen Planungen soll im Jahr 2016 die neue Verbindung zwischen der Autobahn bei Wittlich und der B50 in der Nähe des Flughafens Hahn durchgängig befahrbar sein. Die Verbindung hat eine Länge von 25 Kilometern. Sie wird inklusive eines Ausbaus von Straßen zwischen dem Bau-Ende bei Longkamp und der Hunsrückhöhenstraße voraussichtlich mehr als 330 Millionen Euro kosten.

Einen dritten Bauabschnitt der Bundesstraße wird es aufgrund zu erwartender zu gravierender Eingriffe in die Natur nicht geben.
Die ursprünglichen Pläne für die Straße stammen aus den 60er Jahren. Damals war eine durchgängige Autobahnverbindung von den niederländischen und belgischen Nordseehäfen geplant worden. Die Autobahn mündet heute jedoch kurz hinter der deutsch-belgischen Grenze bei Steinebrück (Eifelkreis Bitburg-Prüm) in einer Kraftfahrzeugstraße. Als vollwertige Autobahn gibt es nur A-60-Teilabschnitte zwischen Prüm und der A1 bei Wittlich sowie bei Mainz.

Von Wittlich aus soll die auf der Autobahntrasse verlaufende B50neu den Lückenschluss Richtung Hunsrück und Rhein-Main-Gebiet herstellen.
source: http://www.volksfreund.de/totallokal...rt1129,2044436 (quite unserious bad regional newspaper)

shortly summarized:
In the end of april construction for the rest of B50n between interchange Wittlich and Longkamp (direction Airport Frankfurt-Hahn) will start - including a huge bridge over the Mosel river. It will cost 330 Million € (state will pay 250€) and is a 25km-non-motorway-project! It's part of a connection between belgian north sea ports and the Rhein-Main-Area...

I think I already mentioned here what I think of the project... overdimensioned with so sense for reality....
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Old April 16th, 2009, 08:11 PM   #1886
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Any renders of the bridge? 80
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Old April 17th, 2009, 01:15 AM   #1887
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well, if this one finally will be complete, it can reduce some transit traffic on the A3/A61 between Belgium and Rhein-Main/Southern Germany ?
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Old April 17th, 2009, 12:45 PM   #1888
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Old April 17th, 2009, 02:03 PM   #1889
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OMG. It is 2+2, right?
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Old April 17th, 2009, 02:18 PM   #1890
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Hmm, that's quite a dramatic impact on the Mosel river valley. I don't think these kind of bridges are really aesthetic.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #1891
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It should have better designs, viaduc millau style or something
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Old April 17th, 2009, 03:53 PM   #1892
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I am pretty upset now, because of this video.

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The Autobahn shown is the A3, stretches between Seligenstadt near Frankfurt and Dernbach near Koblenz.

I hope, this guy will be caught one day, he should never ever drive a car again. He, whoever he is, may be a skilled driver, but he is an irresponsible *******. Even more sick is to film that and put it on youtube.
he shouldnt zigzag if the other *******s would keep right...
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Old April 17th, 2009, 03:57 PM   #1893
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parameters?

it looks like viaduct köröshegy...

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Old April 17th, 2009, 04:34 PM   #1894
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I would say, that people will get used to the bridge, same as in Siegen or in Willingen/Mosel. Nowadays, Willingen + Wine + Autobahn-Bridge just belong together

Some zoom-experiments I made yesterday (A3 Frankfurt/Wiesbaden => Montabaur/Koblenz):

















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Old April 17th, 2009, 04:46 PM   #1895
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zoom + moving car is not a good combination...

at least without an OIS...
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Old April 17th, 2009, 08:01 PM   #1896
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[im g]http://www.b50neu.de/bilder/bruecke3.jpg[/img]
[im g]http://www.b50neu.de/bilder/bruecke4.jpg[/img]
[im g]http://www.b50neu.de/bilder/bruecke1.jpg[/img]
God what a boring bridge. At least make the thing look somewhat nice.
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Old April 17th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #1897
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parameters?
length: 1702m
hight: 158m
width: 29m
cost: 108 million EUR
construction time: 6 years
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Old April 18th, 2009, 01:05 PM   #1898
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I think the design isn't too bad at all. Actually, its as decent as a bridge can get. Maybe boring but still better than trying to do something fancy and then realise that you've failed.

I'll ask again: Its going to be a Gelbe Autobahn, isn't it?
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Old April 18th, 2009, 10:24 PM   #1899
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God what a boring bridge. At least make the thing look somewhat nice.
I agree, it looks like something from the U.S. Practical, but no aesthetics at all...
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Old April 18th, 2009, 10:44 PM   #1900
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Why do the middle lanes look newer? do these need maintenance more often?

Or the right lane is made of concrete for trucks?
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