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Old February 1st, 2008, 09:47 PM   #181
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 09:32 PM   #182
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Prague City Ring construction update

There is an update in the local forum here.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 10:13 PM   #183
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Actually, now I know why there was a feeling of more buttons - b/c of a big "button" for regulating temperature (manual AC), so it was actually worse. And only now I saw wood on the right.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #184
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I always wanted to ask this question:
Why do you have expressways in CR? I mean, why they cannot all be highways? Both are toll roads and both have 130 km/h limit. Of course there are some differences in construction, but for average people there is simply no difference
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Old February 5th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #185
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I always wanted to ask this question:
Why do you have expressways in CR? I mean, why they cannot all be highways? Both are toll roads and both have 130 km/h limit. Of course there are some differences in construction, but for average people there is simply no difference
You got the point. This topic is currently under discussion.

There are several differencies between D's and R's - maintainance mode, highway police control, width/slope, radius of turnings etc. I think mapman can give us some more and specific reasons why we have highways and expressways.

Anyway, some of the older highways (e.g. D1) are much worse than newly built R's (e.g. R35, R48...). The R35 stretch from Olomouc to Lipnik is being considered as one of those where the speed limit might be possibly increased up to 160 kmph.
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Old February 5th, 2008, 09:52 PM   #186
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The R35 stretch from Olomouc to Lipnik is being considered as one of those where the speed limit might be possibly increased up to 160 kmph.

That's interesting, but how viable this idea actually is?

In Poland it is 200% unworkable to increase speed limit But we don't care
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Old February 5th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #187
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That's interesting, but how viable this idea actually is?

In Poland it is 200% unworkable to increase speed limit But we don't care
Not likely but feasible. On some stretches.

Anyway I ignore the speed limit too whenever I feel safe to drive fast (I mean I don't endanger anyone incl. me).
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Old February 5th, 2008, 10:44 PM   #188
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Well to the question of D and R having almost the same equipment and characteristics.

This was based on historical decision. We had a general plan of motorways (D) but still, there were roads (maintained by regions which were bigger than nowadays) - typical 1st class roads - which were being rebulit as 4laned highways. Then someone came up with idea to create sth. which is nowadays called expressays.

But after years of improvement, the regulations and technical normatives changed and set up very strict parameters also for R roads.

Now we have some expressways that have better parameters than some motorways, strange huh?


There is still one "good" reason to keep this difference. It is easier for RSD as investor to push through an expressway than motorway, when people hear the word Dálnice - they don't want it. Rychlostní silnice sounds better

IMHO after the main part of our R network will be bulit, it will be a lot easier to make them D administratively...
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Old February 11th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #189
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There are some pics of R35 U/C in the local forum. See my post here.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 04:38 PM   #190
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There are some new shots of Prague Outer Ring in the local forum.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #191
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A lot of viaducts across the Vltava river. Will the entire ringroad be a closed ring around the entire city of Praha?
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Old February 12th, 2008, 05:06 PM   #192
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A lot of viaducts across the Vltava river. Will the entire ringroad be a closed ring around the entire city of Praha?
Yes, the ring will be closed as you can see here:



That's a pretty hilly area around the river, see the map with altitude.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 12:44 PM   #193
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There are interesting news regarding construction schedule in the local forum:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=392512

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Motorways and Expressways completed till 2010 (green line), the red line means u/c in 2010

original article http://hn.ihned.cz/c1-22989550-nove-...-miliard-korun
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Tady jsou zminene PDFka, ale bez rozpisu rozestavenych useku. To je myslim dobre videt z obrazku:





Co se tyce dokoncenych staveb, neni planek z roku 2010 nerealisticky (az na R7...), ale rozestavenost je mimo.
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This question is not exactly related with highways, but I hope You'll forgive me

What is the speed limit on:
  1. 2x2 regular road(not D or R)
  2. 1x4 road
  3. 1x4 road with quasi-barrier in the middle
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Old March 12th, 2008, 12:17 AM   #195
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1x4?What is that?Runway?
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Old March 12th, 2008, 12:31 AM   #196
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i guess 1x4 yhould be 2x2 divided only with full line
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Old March 12th, 2008, 12:46 AM   #197
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1x4?What is that?Runway?
That's 4 lanes on a single carriageway.
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That's 4 lanes on a single carriageway.
That makes it 2x2 then...
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Old March 12th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #200
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This question is not exactly related with highways, but I hope You'll forgive me

What is the speed limit on:

1. 2x2 regular road(not D or R)
2. 1x4 road
3. 1x4 road with quasi-barrier in the middle
Speed limits in CR in extravillan -
D+R = 130km/h
other roads = 90km/h (it inlclude 2x2 I.class roads)
maybe there should be some local sign increasing the speed, but I didn't seen it so far.
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