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Old January 5th, 2013, 12:13 PM   #2141
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Some month ago, I read news about a planned change of signing of many Czech Rychlostní silnice to dálnice. See this map: > Click <. It was planned, to change it in January 2013. Was it already done or postponed?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 01:01 PM   #2142
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It was planned to change in January 2014 The new amendment to 1997 Road Act is on it's way to the Government, then also the Parliament has to approve it...
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Old January 5th, 2013, 05:57 PM   #2143
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The state of some parts of D1 can be seen in this video. The video starts by Humpolec and ends by Benešov.
There are also pictures from the two sections to be repaired:

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section 5: Šternov (exit 41) - Psáře (exit 49)

section 9: Loket (exit 66) - Hořice (exit 75)

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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #2144
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Why should the construction last until 2018? So long?
Are every sections to be repaired simultanaously or 1 by 1??

Its gonna be a hell out there especially at summer season!!
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Old January 5th, 2013, 07:20 PM   #2145
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It's planned to be done in 4 stages (it's 160 kms - 4-5 sections at once). Only with expemptions of cca three weeks all works should be done with 2+2 provisional arrangement, so hopefully the hell won't be fitted to summer season peak-days.
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Old January 5th, 2013, 09:33 PM   #2146
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and remaining d8 ? late 2014 hopefully ?

have they continued the work ?
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Old January 5th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #2147
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Yep, late 2014 or early 2015 if all the paperwork stays put.
Yep, they are working around there.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 02:29 PM   #2148
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Regarding the D1, a crucial factor Will be whether the lanes Will be Wide enough for cars to overtake those Many trucks Between prague and
Brno.
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Old January 6th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #2149
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Entering Prague on the D1 motorway and going on the southern and western inner Prague city ring. The northern part of the city ring should commence in 2014 with the tunnel Blanka opening. In the second half of the video are the tunnels that are on the eastern part of the ring. The portals of the Blanka tunnel and the construction site are to be seen in the last part of the video.

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Old January 6th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #2150
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I must say lane discipline is very poor compared to what I usually see in other parts of CR.

Not to mention these trailer ads in 3:14
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Old January 7th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #2151
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Within city limits (or when traffic gets stationary) it is allowed to overtake from right. At least in CR. Trailer ads are indeed awful and I'm wondering on what legal basis they are stationed there.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 03:55 AM   #2152
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Regarding the D1, a crucial factor Will be whether the lanes Will be Wide enough for cars to overtake those Many trucks Between prague and
Brno.
I cannot imagine the meaning of this question. The existing D1 is 2x2 and it will be 2x2 after reconstruction. Overtaking in the other lane is not currently constrained by lane width. Overtaking within the same lane is both illegal and extremely dangerous (except when done by motorcycles) even in lanes 3.75 meters wide. I don't see the relationship here between lane width and the possibility of overtaking trucks.

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Old January 7th, 2013, 09:03 AM   #2153
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Within city limits (or when traffic gets stationary) it is allowed to overtake from right. At least in CR. Trailer ads are indeed awful and I'm wondering on what legal basis they are stationed there.
This is a simplification. The rule is not talking about overtaking. Overtaking is indeed allowed only from left either in city or outside the city. Furthermore outside the city borders only the rightenmost lane should be used.

The rule states that inside a city any lane can be used and that the faster vehicle is not considered to be overtaking. However it doesnt really state that changing a lane to the right lane and then back to the left lane (overtaking from left) is allowed. It also states that when all the lanes are full with slower cars blocking a faster car behind, the leftmost car is required to leave the lane if possible.

Further on. Anywhere, also outside the city, the law specifies the "souběžná jízda" i.e. driving in lanes, when the carriageway capacity is full. It again specifies that in such a case, the vehicles in the faster moving lane are not considered to be overtaking.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #2154
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I cannot imagine the meaning of this question. The existing D1 is 2x2 and it will be 2x2 after reconstruction. Overtaking in the other lane is no currently constrained by lane width. Overtaking within the same lane is both illegal and extremely dangerous (except when done by motorcycles) even in lanes 3.75 meters wide. I don't see the relationship here between lane width and the possibility of overtaking trucks.
Well, it can be narrower than this during the reconstruction:


Not everyone wants to pass the trucks in such a situation, not every car has the same size to fit in... During a windy conditions it can be also risky.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:27 AM   #2155
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I know I wouldn't do it.
I'm guessing speed limit for such conditions would be 60-80, so trucks would run at max speed anyway.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 11:51 AM   #2156
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I tried it many times, it's possible, but really not comfy.
There are some visualisations on a special website made for this project:
http://www.novad1.cz/Vizualizace.html
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Old January 7th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #2157
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I cannot imagine the meaning of this question. The existing D1 is 2x2 and it will be 2x2 after reconstruction. Overtaking in the other lane is no currently constrained by lane width. Overtaking within the same lane is both illegal and extremely dangerous (except when done by motorcycles) even in lanes 3.75 meters wide. I don't see the relationship here between lane width and the possibility of overtaking trucks.

My imagination is illustrated at Surels photo. So the problem is how narrow the lanes will be during the construction.

So suppose that situation on the photo with a truck beside your vehicle. There is no doubt that it will make jams if no cars can overtake that truck if the lanes are too narrow :S

I think you have misunderstood. maybe you thought that I was talking about the lanes AFTER construction was finished, actually I'm talking about the lane width DURING the construction
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Old January 7th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #2158
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so let me hear from some experts.

Suppose going from D8 to D1 or opposite direction. Will it be better to take the present Prague okruh (vysocanska radial-sterboholska spojka etc.) or the new eastern part with all those tunnels after 2014 ???
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Old January 7th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #2159
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I think you have misunderstood. maybe you thought that I was talking about the lanes AFTER construction was finished, actually I'm talking about the lane width DURING the construction
Thanks for clarifying. During construction, the trucks will be going about 10 kmh faster than the speed limit, so passing wouldn't be much of an option anyway. That said, I've passed in 2.0 meter lanes in construction zones, for example on the A23 in Vienna a year or two ago.
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Old January 7th, 2013, 07:11 PM   #2160
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so let me hear from some experts.

Suppose going from D8 to D1 or opposite direction. Will it be better to take the present Prague okruh (vysocanska radial-sterboholska spojka etc.) or the new eastern part with all those tunnels after 2014 ???
I would guess it could be slightly faster on the inner city ring, if there is not traffic jam. It will be shorter. However it will be prone to traffic jams, tunnel closures, etc. On the other side, the trucks are and will be forbidden on this route.
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