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Old May 17th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #2241
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Should open in 6 weeks (green on the map):
C1 D3 0307 Tábor – Sobìslav 16,3 km
C2a D3 0308A Sobìslav – Veselí nad Lužnicí 7,7 km
C2b D3 0308B Most pøes Lužnici 1,1 km

Should be put under construction this year (red on the map):
C2c D3 0308C Veselí nad Lužnicí – Bošilec 5,6 km
C5 D3 0309/III Borek – Úsilné 3,3 km




RSD project plans for 2013 (green opening 2013, red under construction as of 2013).

And what about the reconstruction of Tabor bypass?
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Old May 17th, 2013, 11:08 PM   #2242
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If I have the right information - one carriageway is finished and reconstructed already. The other carriageway faces legal problems and the reconstruction is stuck.

The Tábor bypass should be opened only in one carriegeway atm.
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Old May 18th, 2013, 10:05 PM   #2243
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Should open in 6 weeks (green on the map):
C1 D3 0307 Tábor – Sobìslav 16,3 km
C2a D3 0308A Sobìslav – Veselí nad Lužnicí 7,7 km
C2b D3 0308B Most pøes Lužnici 1,1 km
Well, I read this week, that the D3 Tabor - Veseli nad Luznici will probably be opened in August 2013 if the acceptance will be finished until then.
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Old May 19th, 2013, 09:59 AM   #2244
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Well, the Motorway Directorate (RSD) put some presure on the contractor of these sections and they mentioned that they wil have to impose a penalty for each day of delay after the 30.6.2013, if the motorway is not finished, so Tabor - Veseli might likely be opened at the end of June. They are really making a huge progress there with final works.
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Old May 19th, 2013, 12:51 PM   #2245
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Well, the Motorway Directorate (RSD) put some presure on the contractor of these sections and they mentioned that they wil have to impose a penalty for each day of delay after the 30.6.2013, if the motorway is not finished, so Tabor - Veseli might likely be opened at the end of June. They are really making a huge progress there with final works.
Well, I read that info in German media, and it refers to Czech media. According to that info the 24km road is complete - or almost complete -, but the acceptance process could take until August.
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Old May 19th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #2246
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Well, I read that info in German media, and it refers to Czech media. According to that info the 24km road is complete - or almost complete -, but the acceptance process could take until August.
Opening is not the same as completition (with all legal and other issues finished). The roads are mostly opened few months, but it can be even longer, before being completed in this sense.
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Old May 19th, 2013, 02:33 PM   #2247
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D3 Tabor - Veseli nad Luznici- Do you know the cost per km? Thx
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Old May 19th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #2248
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Opening is not the same as completition
Of course. But that is not what the article is taking about.

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"Die ersten Autos auf dem neuen Abschnitt der südböhmischen Autobahn D3 werden voraussichtlich erst im August fahren. So lange kann sich der Prozess der Bauübergabe hinziehen"

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"The first cars are estimated to drive on the new D3 in August. The acceptance process could take as long."

Source: www.nov-ost.info
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Old May 19th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #2249
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Alle Angaben hier zur Verfügung:
Leaflet

Seite 8:
Länge - 16,3 + 8,7 = 25 km
Vertragspreis - 10,45 mld CZK - rund 400 Mio EUR
d.h. 16 Mio EUR pro km (excl. MWSt)


About a month ago there were rumours that the contractor is not able to finish works on the time, but it did not prove right, they just didn't want to finish it on time, because RSD has been late with payment for already made works (there have been disputes about changes of project and respective financing).
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Old May 19th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #2250
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Highway open

Does anyone know when the highway is finished from Teplice to Prague?
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Old May 19th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #2251
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Not before 2015, the last section still has some legal problems, even though the construction is pending nowadays...
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Old May 20th, 2013, 12:14 PM   #2252
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Does anyone know when the highway is finished from Teplice to Prague?
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Old May 20th, 2013, 06:29 PM   #2253
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I hope when they will finished D3 to Veseli, they start to built the D3 to Bosilec!
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Investigative magazine Reportéři ČT covered the Eurovia x RSD causa of D1 in Ostrava. The video is in czech only but the pictures are quite interesting. The most interesting are the pictures of the construction faults and problems with the newly built motorways, not only on the section of D1 in Ostrava, but overall.

The main case is that Eurovia messed the construction of the D1 in Ostrava and RSD and Eurovia are in arbitrage now about at whose costs will the repair happen.
Miroslava Pošvářová seems to be right for the new job of chief auditor (quality checking) of the RSD.

Interesting pictures:
min: 1,25.. shows how the slag used in the underlying layer swells and destroys the bridge and the dilatation is gone and the concrete cracks (2,15).
min: 2,25... wave on the side of the bridge due to the swelling (also 3,00)
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min 10,56... Pošvářová presenting pictures of flaws on recently finished projects.

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilan...zpackanou-d47/
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 08:45 PM   #2255
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I never understood the reason why D3 is prefered instead of R4. D3 looks like a useless highway to me. There should be just an regular road to Benesov while R4 should be built as 3+3 as it is about to be built as 2+2 anyway. No environment disputes then. Quite the same distance from Prague to CB.
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I never understood the reason why D3 is prefered instead of R4. D3 looks like a useless highway to me. There should be just an regular road to Benesov while R4 should be built as 3+3 as it is about to be built as 2+2 anyway.
I would like someday to see a 2x2 motorway (tunneled under the mountains along CZ/DE border) to connect the R4 with the A92. In my opinion, there should be a reasonably straight road between Prague and Munich. Even when all currently planned roads will have been built, there will only be a choice among bad options.
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I never understood the reason why D3 is prefered instead of R4. D3 looks like a useless highway to me. There should be just an regular road to Benesov while R4 should be built as 3+3 as it is about to be built as 2+2 anyway. No environment disputes then. Quite the same distance from Prague to CB.
That's easy - historicaly the main route to České Budějovice is routed through Benešov and Tábor (stará benešovská). R4 has been pretty lucky to be built so fast because former leading representative of communist party in 1970's had a weekend house in Šumava mountains, so the route gained pritority, but the plans to connect Prague with České Budějovice were all the time focused on the soute Nr. 3, even though the road cathegory changed many times in the past - from motorway to main road, expressway and to motorway again. Even nowadays the route Nr. 3 gives much more sense to me.

Once again, route N°4 gained it's importance in a very disputable way and shall not be preffered over route N°3 - it is not only about the long distance traffic between Prague and České Budějovice. The opening of Tábor - Veselí section will show it's significance, hopefully...

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I would like someday to see a 2x2 motorway (tunneled under the mountains along CZ/DE border) to connect the R4 with the A92. In my opinion, there should be a reasonably straight road between Prague and Munich. Even when all currently planned roads will have been built, there will only be a choice among bad options.
Route N°4 south of Vimperk goes through Protected Landscape Area and National Park of Šumava at the length of 19 + 4 kms. It's not feasible and environmentaly acceptable to route a transit corridor here, especially with regard to the fact that there is a reasonable alternative in I/27 + B20 corridor (Plzeň (D5) - Cham - Straubing - Landau (A92)), which is much more suitable for long distance traffic from Prague to Munich, if any other alternative to D5-A6-A93 connection is to be built...
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especially with regard to the fact that there is a reasonable alternative in I/27 + B20 corridor (Plzeň (D5) - Cham - Straubing - Landau (A92)), which is much more suitable for long distance traffic from Prague to Munich, if any other alternative to D5-A6-A93 connection is to be built...
Munich - Prague via A9/A92/B20/I26/D5: 368km
Munich - Prague via A9/A92/St2135/B11/I27/D5: 373km
Munich - Prague via A9/A93/D5: 386km
Munich - Prague via A9/A92/A3/St2127/PA93/B12/I4/R4: 394km
Munich - Prague via A94/B12/A3/B12/I4/R4: 395km

There are many routes. The shortest existing route is only 18km (5%) shorter than the only real motorway route. It makes absoultely no sense to build a motorway on the direct route. A direct route would not be shorter than 350km.

The German B11 will be upgraded to 2+1 lanes including some bypasses.
The German B12 will be upgraded to 2+1 lanes and maybe a northern Passau bypass will be built in 10 or 20 years.
The German B20 will be upgraded to 2+1 lanes and maybe to 2x2 lanes plus hard shoulders between Cham and Landau.

I think, it is enough to have the existing motorway route via D5.cz plus the future D3.cz/S10.at motorway/expressway route.
The R4.cz/B12.de route could be a nice highway with 2+1 lanes, the same for I26.cz/B20.de and maybe I27.cz/B11.de. The advantage of 3 highways is that it develops a bigger area than only one motorway.
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Route N°4 south of Vimperk goes through Protected Landscape Area and National Park of Šumava at the length of 19 + 4 kms. It's not feasible and environmentaly acceptable to route a transit corridor here, especially with regard to the fact that there is a reasonable alternative in I/27 + B20 corridor (Plzeň (D5) - Cham - Straubing - Landau (A92)), which is much more suitable for long distance traffic from Prague to Munich, if any other alternative to D5-A6-A93 connection is to be built...
That's why I suggested a tunnel.

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Munich - Prague via A9/A92/B20/I26/D5: 368km
Munich - Prague via A9/A92/St2135/B11/I27/D5: 373km
Munich - Prague via A9/A93/D5: 386km
Munich - Prague via A9/A92/A3/St2127/PA93/B12/I4/R4: 394km
Munich - Prague via A94/B12/A3/B12/I4/R4: 395km

There are many routes. The shortest existing route is only 18km (5%) shorter than the only real motorway route. It makes absoultely no sense to build a motorway on the direct route. A direct route would not be shorter than 350km.
The great circle distance between Prague and Munich is 265 km. A direct connection between Pribram and Deggendorf (with a tunnel under the nature preserve) would make Prague - Munich 280-290 km.
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The great circle distance between Prague and Munich is 265 km.
The walking route on Google Maps has a length of 339km. A motorway will never ever be shorter.

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A direct connection between Pribram and Deggendorf (with a tunnel under the nature preserve) would make Prague - Munich 280-290 km.
Well, the council of Ruhmannsfelden (north of Deggendorf) even refused a western B11 bypass of their own village. It would be a difficult way to find a route for a Autobahn there! I guess the people would even not accept a route with a 20km tunnel from Deggendorf to Regen and a further 35km tunnel from Regen to Velhartice.

AADT 2010 (source) of the 3 German roads (vehicles/day / trucks/day (trucks/vehicles):
B20 Steinach (A3) – Ascha (L2147) 10500 / 1869 (17,8%)
B20 Ascha (St2147) – Traitsching (K43) 7700 / 1794 (23,3%) - 3.3km 2+1 upgrade is u/c
B20 Bauamtsgr. PA/R – südl.Traitsching (CHA3) 8600 / 1935 (22,5%) - 5.3km are planned to be upgraded to 2+1
B20 südl.Traitsching (CHA3) – AS Cham-Süd (St2146) 10600 / 1844 (17,4%) - 3.2km are 2+1
--> 12km of the 30km long section will have 2+1 lanes soon; a 2x2 widening (plus hard shoulders) of the entire section is suggested
for the new BVWP 2015.
B20 AS Cham-Süd (B85) – AS Cham-Mitte (B22/St2146) 19800 / 3148 (15,9%) - 2+1; upgrade to 2x2 planned
B20 AS Cham-Mitte (St2146) – AS Chammünster (B85) 22000 / 2838 (12,9%) - 2+1; upgrade to 2x2 planned
--> entire section has 2+1 lanes and it is planned to upgrade it to 2x2
B20 AS Chammünster (B85) – AS Arnschwang (CHA5) 12500 / 1863 (14,9%)
B20 AS Arnschwang (CHA5) – AS Ponholz (CHA55) 8400 / 1957 (23,3%)
--> 7.4km of the 13.5km section will be 2+1 soon (completion of last phase in June)
; it was planned to upgrade it to 2x2 but this project is not suggested for the BVWP 2015.
B20 s.Furth (CHA55) – Furth (St2154) 11400 / 1995 (17,5%)
B20 Furth-Grabitz (St2154) – Furth (St2154) 11700 / 948 (8,1%)
B20 Furth (St2154) – Furth (CHA40) 6100 / 317 (5,2%)
B20 Furth (CHA40) – Furth (Volmauerstr.) 7300 / 314 (4,3%)
B20 Furth (Volmauerstr.) – BG (Tschechien) 9900 / 1218 (12,3%)
--> Furth bypass will be completed in late July 2013 (2x1 only).

B11 AS Deggendorf-Mitte (A 92) – Deggendorf 20000 / 1100 (5,5%) - still 2x2
B11 Deggendorf – Deggendorf (L 2133) 12300 / 910 (7,4%)
B11 Deggendorf (L 2133) – Gotteszell (K 14) 11300 / 780 (6,9%) - 8.7km are planned to be upgraded to 2+1
B11 Gotteszell (K 14) – Patersdorf 11500 / 897 (7,8%) - 4.1km 2+1 Ruhmannsfelden bypass planned; further 4.4km are planned to be upgraded to 2+1
--> Nearly the entire section will get 2+1 lanes.
B85 Patersdorf – Regen-Oleumsbrücke 5700 / 752 (13,2%) - 2.8km are planned to be upgraded to 2+1
B85 Regen-Oleumsbruecke – Wieshof 15900 / 1065 (6,7%)
--> 2.8km of the 13km long B85 section will get 2+1 lanes.
B11 Wieshof (B85) – Regen-Ost 2800 / 143 (5,1%)
B11 Regen (L 2134) – Zwiesel-Süd 8500 / 434 (5,1%) - 1.5km are 2+1 since November 2010; 4.8km are planned to be upgraded to 2+1 including Schweinhütt bypass
B11 Zwiesel-Süd – Zwiesel-Ost (St 2132) 6000 / 342 (5,7%)
B11 Zwiesel-Ost (St2132) – Zwiesel (K 10) 3900 / 269 (6,9%)
B11 Zwiesel (K 10) – Bayerisch Eisenstein, Regenhütte (L 2137) 5800 / 249 (4,3%) - Bayerisch Eisenstein bypass planned
B11 Bayerisch Eisenstein, Regenhütte (L 2137) – Bayrisch Eisenstein, BG Tschechien (silnice 27) 3400 / 126 (3,7%)
--> 6.3km of the 26km long section will have 2+1.

B12 AS Passau-Mitte (A 3) – Passau, AS Äußere Spitalhofstraße 20200 / 1636 (8,1%)
B12 Passau, Äußere Spitalhofstraße – Passau, Maierhof (St 2125) 26300 / 1710 (6,5%)
B12 Passau, Kachletstraße (St 2125) – OA Passau 28300 / 1019 (3,6%)
B12 OA Passau – OE Passau 29600 / 1628 (5,5%)
B12 Passau (B 388) – OE Passau 20400 / 1285 (6,3%)
B12 OE Passau – Kastenreuth (St 2319) 13600 / 898 (6,6%)
--> Northern bypass is suggested for the new BVWP 2015.
B12 Kastenreuth (St 2319) – Hutthurm (St 2128) 11900 / 655 (5,5%)
B12 Hutthurm (St 2128) – Röhrnbach 15100 / 1480 (9,8%)
B12 Röhrnbach – Röhrnbach (K 2) 7900 / 1019 (12,9%)
B12 Röhrnbach (K 2) – Aigenstadl (L 2127) 7100 / 852 (12%)
B12 Aigenstadl (St 2127) – Freyung (B 533) 9300 / 958 (10,3%)
--> Nearly the entire 30km stretch is planned to be upgraded to 2+1, some sections are already completed
B12 Freyung (B 533) – Schwarzenthal (St 2130) 6800 / 904 (13,3%) - 5.8km will be upgraded to 2+1
B12 Mauth (St 2130) – BG Tschechien (silnice 4) 4200 / 651 (15,5%)
--> 5.8km of 17km will get 2+1 lanes.


The transit traffic is very low. Only 17.500 vehicles per day and 2000 trucks per day have passed the border on one of this 3 highways in 2010.

I think it is only necessary to implement the existing plans on the German side. In addition the
B20 between Chammünster and Weiding should be upgraded to 2+1 (where 2+2 plans are canceled).
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