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Old September 30th, 2014, 04:43 PM   #2761
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Dynamic road markings?
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Old September 30th, 2014, 05:13 PM   #2762
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Dynamic road markings?
Yes. Should the tunnel be closed in case of emergency, the vehicles will be guided out of the tunnel, and the carriageway will get a second lane.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 07:30 PM   #2763
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Isn't that against EU regulations?
The planned tunnel on S2 in Warsaw needs to be redesigned because road width, number of lanes etc. cannot change in tunnels.
Or did the construction start before these regulations came in?

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Old September 30th, 2014, 07:31 PM   #2764
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The EU directive only applies to tunnels in the TEN-T network.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:09 PM   #2765
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Strange directive if it`s only applies to tunnels in the TEN-T network.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:17 PM   #2766
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I don't know if there are different directives but AFAIK the "EU tunnel directive" is used for all tunnels (that's how Germany handles it).
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #2767
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The individual nations derive their legislation from the EU directive. The Netherlands also applies it to every tunnel longer than 250 meters. Even Norway applies the EU directive (but not to all tunnels).
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Old September 30th, 2014, 08:50 PM   #2768
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Isn't that against EU regulations?
The planned tunnel on S2 in Warsaw needs to be redesigned because road width, number of lanes etc. cannot change in tunnels.
Or did the construction start before these regulations came in?
I don't know about the EU regulation. The tunnel construction started already in 2007. I don't know whether those markings were in the original plans though.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 09:08 PM   #2769
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This is the directive (2004): http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...LEX:32004L0054

This Directive aims at ensuring a minimum level of safety for road users in tunnels in the Trans-European Road Network

But national governments can expand this criteria to all tunnels. A popular pastime in the Netherlands is to implement much stricter versions of EU legislation and then bash the EU for being too strict.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #2770
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But national governments can expand this criteria to all tunnels. A popular pastime in the Netherlands is to implement much stricter versions of EU legislation and then bash the EU for being too strict.
This does not happen only in the Netherlands . Actually, I had the impression that the Dutch government takes the EU regulation bit more easier.


I thought about another possibility. The markings is orange = extraordinary markings for e.g. road works etc. It would be implemented only in a case of a emergency anyway. It is not like that they would be doubling the lanes on that slip road in the rush hour. So it can be maybe implemented under some other provision that is actually increasing the safety in the case of an emergency.
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Old October 1st, 2014, 11:05 AM   #2771
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The Directive says:
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With the exception of the emergency lane, the same number of lanes shall be maintained inside and outside the tunnel. Any change in the number of lanes shall occur at a sufficient distance in front of the tunnel portal; this distance shall be at least the distance covered in 10 seconds by a vehicle travelling at the speed limit. When geographic circumstances prevent this, additional and/or reinforced measures shall be taken to enhance safety.
In this case, the conditions in situ prevent this measure from being applied, therefore underground interchanges and line number changes are acceptable. And as said before, it is not on TEN-T corridors.
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Old October 6th, 2014, 11:42 AM   #2772
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The Trója bridge in Prague is opened to the traffic.



http://praha.idnes.cz/trojsky-most-s...aha-zpravy_bur

I am quite disappointed with the bike paths. There are pictograms on the road. I thought that the pavement would have been used and there would be a separated bike path. What a pity.

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I seriously don't understand why such, in my opinion, poor designs for the bicycle infrastructure are used. Those are all new constructions... This is not the only case. The newly designed streets above Blanka tunnel are accommodating the bikes in the same way...
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Old October 6th, 2014, 12:02 PM   #2773
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A lovely sleek bridge - I like it
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Old October 6th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #2774
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The bridge looks very nice, the bike infrastructure is indeed pretty bad and not well though-out, especially because it is brand new infrastructure.
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Old October 6th, 2014, 04:22 PM   #2775
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I had the opportunity to walk across the bridge yesterday afternoon. It's a lovely structure, though I will be curious to see what happens with traffic in Holešovice before the Blanka Tunnel opens.
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Old October 6th, 2014, 08:05 PM   #2776
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The bridge looks very nice, the bike infrastructure is indeed pretty bad and not well though-out, especially because it is brand new infrastructure.
The idiocy has more to it. Look at what is there prepared for the cyclists .



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Old October 7th, 2014, 12:59 AM   #2777
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The bridge looks very nice.
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Old October 7th, 2014, 08:07 PM   #2778
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The idiocy has more to it. Look at what is there prepared for the cyclists .



Please, tell me this is just some kind of humour and you know what this is and why it is there and that it is on every bridge.
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Old October 7th, 2014, 09:40 PM   #2779
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is it normal among Praha to use such easy-to-overlook signage or just stupid solution there? or red paint is so expensive in CZ?
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Old October 7th, 2014, 10:36 PM   #2780
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Prague doesn't seem to be very bike friendly in general.
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