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Old October 12th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #2801
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Thats Incredibal. That slows down the traffic very much
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Old October 13th, 2014, 08:12 PM   #2802
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One section is already completed, but makes no sense alone, so it is called as "the most expensive roller skating track in the world", because many inliners use it instead of cars. See "2.etapa" in the map within this PDF (page 3). The "1.etapa" has problem with one plot, that has to be expropriated.

(...) agreement between the owners and the state on the height of the purchase price is almost impossible. As long as this dispute is not solved, the construction can't proceed.
In Poland, once the administrative decision determining the localisation of the road is final, then the ownership of the land passes automatically to the government. If the former owner of the land do not agree with the proposed compensation, the court will determine the compensation. The procedure is quite simple, and the whole process of the road construction is quite quick.
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Old October 15th, 2014, 06:00 PM   #2803
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In Poland, once the administrative decision determining the localisation of the road is final, then the ownership of the land passes automatically to the government. If the former owner of the land do not agree with the proposed compensation, the court will determine the compensation. The procedure is quite simple, and the whole process of the road construction is quite quick.
It's the same in Romania. Before, there were big problems with expropriating land for building roads but now it functions much faster.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 04:24 PM   #2804
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The D1-R55 interchange at Hulín. What road is planned to extend east from here?

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Old November 3rd, 2014, 04:34 PM   #2805
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R49, should be build at this moment.
http://www.rsd.cz/rsd/rsd.nsf/26FA4423C0960AE5412566EB004569CC/F5C7C36AF0AF8D6AC1257B2C0054DEDF/$FILE/cz-stavba-2014.pdf
Initially it was planned as D1 but political circumstances changed that.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:05 AM   #2806
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R49, should be build at this moment.
http://www.rsd.cz/rsd/rsd.nsf/26FA4423C0960AE5412566EB004569CC/F5C7C36AF0AF8D6AC1257B2C0054DEDF/$FILE/cz-stavba-2014.pdf
Initially it was planned as D1 but political circumstances changed that.
Check you're link please.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:51 AM   #2807
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In what sense? Link works just fine.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 01:40 PM   #2808
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Once again what above posted @Richard_P, but as a link:

http://www.rsd.cz/rsd/rsd.nsf/26FA44...tavba-2014.pdf
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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:53 PM   #2809
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Apparently they started construction on 30 September 2008, but stopped work in 2012 (?). The 2014 imagery shows no construction at all
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Old November 4th, 2014, 06:46 PM   #2810
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Apparently they started construction on 30 September 2008, but stopped work in 2012 (?). The 2014 imagery shows no construction at all
They "paused" it in autumn 2010 because of the finances, although there was not really much to be paused just few demolitions happened.

In 2012 the court canceled the construction permit for major part of the project.

Since then, there are finances, but there is no advance in the construction permit. In fact there were even EU finances available in the meantime as it got a priority in the EU financed projects.

This illustrates the complete mismanagement of the motorways construction in the CZ.

At the moment they still don´t have the construction permit, although there is something happening at snail speed. When they receive the permit, we can expect another court hearings initiated by the green lobby. So actual start of the construction is unforeseen. The funny thing is, that this project was tendered in 2008 to Skanska.

The construction is part of the so called Moravian Intersection: http://www.moravska-krizovatka.cz/
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Old November 12th, 2014, 12:22 PM   #2811
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Transport Minister Prachar leaves govt, Dan Tok (CEO of construction company Skanska CZ) could replace him:
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zprav...ce-him/1146376
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Old November 12th, 2014, 01:00 PM   #2812
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It is the 10th minister of transport since 2009.

Are they trying to make a new record?
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Old November 17th, 2014, 04:49 PM   #2813
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Hello dear friends,

as i am visiting Romania in December, i am very interested to know about the repairs going on at aging D1. My trip is around 12.-16.Dec. Do they make a winter break?

I am starting near Chemnitz so the new road surrounding Chomutov is nice. The following stations are Praha, Brno, Bratislava, Budapest, Szeged and Sibiu. But as motorways are in good shape, i don't expect much trouble. Except for the old National road 430/43; DN7 between the End of M43 and Deva, which might be crowded. But thats common.

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Old November 17th, 2014, 05:30 PM   #2814
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Yes, there will be a winter break regarding road works on D1, traffic shall flow smooth and undisturbed (as long as the weather allows it).
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Old November 17th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #2815
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It is the 10th minister of transport since 2009.

Are they trying to make a new record?
Wow, the Czech road building program really looks like a mess.

It's funny how 10-15 years ago some of us in Poland looked with envy on Czech road network.
Now, with every year passing, Czech Republic will have more and more catching up to do.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 08:03 PM   #2816
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It's a huge mess.
Polish road network, on the other side, is going forward at an unbelievable pace.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #2817
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Well Czech motorway network is not so bad comparing to Polish one.Czech motorway network is in my opinion 75% completed,while Polish motorway network is completed somewhere about 55.%
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Old November 18th, 2014, 12:48 AM   #2818
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There are still many motorways and expressways to be built. Just those which came on my mind - D1, D3, D8, D11, R1, R3, R4, R6, R7, R11, R35, R43, R48, R49, R52, R55, I/11, I/44, I/57, I/68.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 04:30 AM   #2819
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There are still many motorways and expressways to be built. Just those which came on my mind - D1, D3, D8, D11, R1, R3, R4, R6, R7, R11, R35, R43, R48, R49, R52, R55, I/11, I/44, I/57, I/68.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 02:21 PM   #2820
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Well Czech motorway network is not so bad comparing to Polish one.Czech motorway network is in my opinion 75% completed,while Polish motorway network is completed somewhere about 55.%
The current length of the M and E network is 1242 km.
The planned length is 2180 km.

That is 56 %.
That is 938 km. It could be build for some CZK 500 BLN I guess. Taking into account the EU subsidies, the costs for the Czech government could be less than CZK 250 BLN. That could be easily financed in 5 years.

Maybe the Czech government could go to GDDKiA, hire 500 people there, offer them double or triple the salary, and let them organize the RSD with one objective only. Get those motorways built in less than 10 years, in perfectly competed and clear contracts. The necessary legislation included.

Think with me, paying and hiring 1000 people for 10 years. Giving them on average € 4 000 per month brutto (more than very nice salary in CZ). That would be € 50 mln per year. € 500 mln per 10 years. That is CZK 13,5 BLN for the whole 10 years. So for some 5,5 % of the costs for the construction to the Czech government. Even if you count the non salary costs, (that are there anyway for the government) on those 1000 people, we would get to some 20 BLN over 10 years. Even if that would be double the money, it would be worth it.

It is simply impossible to start some construction without having good human capital working for the government. The people need to be loyal, not corrupted, and professionals. For that you need to pay them to get the best. Even if you pay them really well, the costs are negligible compared to the costs of the construction they plan and oversee. Only if you look at the fact that those people need to prepare the projects and tendering plans, you will probably save much more money on the well prepared projects and competed prices than you would invest into them. And thinking about the money from the EU that are completely lost because there are no projects etc... that seems completely crazy. Those people would just pay themselves several times over, and what is most important, the motorways would be done.

I am really wondering, when we will see any change with respect to the human capital on the ministry and in the RSD. As of now it could even seem better to start completely a new and build a new organization from scratch.
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