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Old May 1st, 2015, 05:41 AM   #3001
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Hopefully the Czechs start posting 150 signs so that the Poles will be forced to install signs 160, so PL can remain better
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 11:48 PM   #3002
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:30 AM   #3003
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The Chamber of Deputies of the Parliament of the Czech Republic yesterday passed a bill that amends our act on roads. It contains aforementioned changes in categorization of roads. Deputies also approved a supplement that enables the respective authority at the MoT to increase the maximum allowed speed on suitable sections of czech motorways to 150 kph. The bill is now being hand over to Senate for further approval.
150km/h is a bit excessive for CR, no?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 09:21 AM   #3004
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Indeed, it is. Hopefully it stays only on paper, as in Italy or Austria...
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 09:47 AM   #3005
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Why should it be too high? For instance, D5. Why should 150 be too excessive?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 11:49 AM   #3006
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The president has already vetoed the bill, so there will be no 150 km/h in the Czech Republic. Which, considering the general state of the roads and the skills of the drivers, is a very good thing. The Czechs drive badly enough as it is. I don't want one more reason for people here to behave like arses on the roads.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 01:12 PM   #3007
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So, it`s the end of the (short) dream about 150km/h speed limit on suitable sections of czech motorways.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 02:02 PM   #3008
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The president has already vetoed the bill, so there will be no 150 km/h in the Czech Republic. Which, considering the general state of the roads and the skills of the drivers, is a very good thing. The Czechs drive badly enough as it is. I don't want one more reason for people here to behave like arses on the roads.
Come to Poland if you want to see shocking driving, I always find CR to be far better in comparison!

But the state of the roads are the important thing, 150km/h would only make sense in a few places, such as between Ostrava and Olomouc. I can't imagine a 150km/h limit from Olomouc to Prague!
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 04:46 PM   #3009
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Why should it be too high? For instance, D5. Why should 150 be too excessive?
In Germany you have the "Richtsgeschwindigkeit", so that the people driving at high speed always bear a certain part of liability in case of an accident despite his share on it etc. "Ordnung" is also not an empty word in Germany. In CZ the 150 limit would not make a signifiant change in traffic behavior, many drivers don't respect limits at all, but we need that change. After that we can also raise the limits, but until then it is just legalization of misbehaviour...
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 04:56 PM   #3010
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Shame, there is no logical reason to have low speed limits on motorways imho. They are by far the safest roads... 150 is hardly fast for a good motorway, more like cruising speed. A speed limit on motorways is nothing but gesture politics to satisfy left wing eco morons imho.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 05:01 PM   #3011
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It's a little difficult to qualify 130 km/h as a 'low speed limit'.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 05:06 PM   #3012
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Perhaps in the 1980's.

Cars have got much safer since then, why not use that extra space to allow people to travel faster ? 130 km/h would be fast in a car that will definitely kill you on a 50 km/h impact yes, but with todays 5 star Euro NCAP cars, 130km/h is slow, cars are made to travel much faster than that... It is so wrong of me to be satisfied with the road safety of 10 or 20 years ago, and prefer to ( potentially, it doesn't have to get unsafe necessarily) sacrifice some of that to get much more mobility ?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 05:54 PM   #3013
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The Czechs drive badly enough as it is. I don't want one more reason for people here to behave like arses on the roads.
From my experience, people who say things like these are always those who drive the least often. I drove about 50,000 km on Czech roads last year and I don't think the same. IMHO there certainly are motorways where 150 wouldn't be a problem at all.
What I see as the biggest problem of Czech roads are some busy I-class roads without bypasses and inexperienced drivers mostly in cities. But these wouldn't be influenced by 150 motorways.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 06:34 PM   #3014
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IMHO there certainly are motorways where 150 wouldn't be a problem at all.
Okay, the idea was canceled but which motorways do you mean?
I only drove on D5, western half of D1 and southern half of R10 but I think it shouldn't be any reason for not raising the speed limit on D5 to 150km/h.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 07:39 PM   #3015
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The idea wasn't canceled. The presidential veto can be again outvoted by the deputies.

I basically agree with the proposal

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Old May 3rd, 2015, 07:47 PM   #3016
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Which are the proposed sections, green or red?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:35 PM   #3017
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The president has already vetoed the bill, so there will be no 150 km/h in the Czech Republic. Which, considering the general state of the roads and the skills of the drivers, is a very good thing. The Czechs drive badly enough as it is. I don't want one more reason for people here to behave like arses on the roads.
But when I was driving on Czech motorways it was pretty common to be driving 150 km/h, even sometimes 170 km/h. So what is the difference?

As for veto, old Klaus would never have said no
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:44 PM   #3018
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Which are the proposed sections, green or red?
I assume red, in which case, it does make sense.

150km/h would be madness between Vyskov and Prague, but on the highlighted sections, it actually makes sense. The road is empty after Vyskov, and the road up towards Ostrava is incredibly dull.

Not so convinced by the D11 (traffic isn't so light there...) however. Still, on my typical run (Boboszów-Mikoluv via Olomouc) - most time is wasted buying the actual vignette more than anything else.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 10:14 PM   #3019
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In London, you can pay for entering the city center even afterwards. A similar system exists in Houston, Texas, USA. Is it planned to introduce an electronic vignette in the Czech Republic?
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 11:59 PM   #3020
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In London, you can pay for entering the city center even afterwards. A similar system exists in Houston, Texas, USA. Is it planned to introduce an electronic vignette in the Czech Republic?
Nothing right now. The EU is moving towards a single standard for electronic tolling, but this is still many years away. As inefficient as vignette-based systems are, they're still the easiest way to get everyone using them.

While some countries have introduced electronic vignettes, no system yet exists to automatically pay for a vignette using an on-board unit in Europe.
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