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Old December 11th, 2015, 12:59 PM   #3281
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Luckily no causulties this time. How do you know it was a Polish driver?



There's been more casualties on th e railway crossings last year, but I would say that more severe measures are needed. E.g automated plate recognition and licence forfeit plus severe fines.

There's simply too many railway crossings in the CZ to make them all guarded or no level crossings.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #3282
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Luckily no causulties this time.
I think it's a good thing when incredibly stupid drivers are killed -- especially before they defecate in our gene pool. The problem is when these drivers kill other people.

Automatic license plate recognition is useful when it's coupled with automatic photography of the driver's face. Too many registered owners have been punished for things done by someone else driving the vehicle. Also consider that most commercial vehicles are registered to companies.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #3283
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I think it's a good thing when incredibly stupid drivers are killed -- especially before they defecate in our gene pool. The problem is when these drivers kill other people.

Automatic license plate recognition is useful when it's coupled with automatic photography of the driver's face. Too many registered owners have been punished for things done by someone else driving the vehicle. Also consider that most commercial vehicles are registered to companies.
The owner of a vehicle should know who is driving, unless the vehicle is used without a consent. Company registration - maybe they should be forced to be paying extra large fines threatening their businesses.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 03:35 AM   #3284
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The owner of a vehicle should know who is driving, unless the vehicle is used without a consent. Company registration - maybe they should be forced to be paying extra large fines threatening their businesses.
Better to get a photo of the driver's face, like the American traffic cameras do.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 05:21 PM   #3285
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Better to get a photo of the driver's face, like the American traffic cameras do.
Sure, that's the best variant. But when sending automated letters abroad (within the EU), you still can't really identify the person driving the vehicle. That would be too much hassle. In fact, I don't think they do it even within the country.

But in anyway, it is solid argument for a possible court proceedings if the driver refuses the fine.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 05:34 PM   #3286
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It looks like there's pretty poor infrastructute too, just look at the pedestrians, there's even no zebra crossing. It's a mess.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 06:23 PM   #3287
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It looks like there's pretty poor infrastructute too, just look at the pedestrians, there's even no zebra crossing. It's a mess.
It's not that good, true, but it is one of the better ones if you look at the map of Frydek Místek actually. Although I think it should have had gates installed.
http://mapy.cz/letecka?vlastni-body&...21%272.291%22E

I have counted there around 15 rail level crossings. I am not sure if I saw gates on any of them apart from one pedestrian crossing.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 07:28 PM   #3288
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These railroad crossings are really pathetic, and even if this one is "one of the better ones", it's extremely deficient, dangerous and unsufficient taking into consideration that this is a main street in a dense urban area. Seriously, there aren't even traffic lights .
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Old December 12th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #3289
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There were around 8500 level railway crossings in the Czech Republic in 2012. Some 56 % had no safety, just a warning sign, 25 % had warning lights, 10 % lights and gates and 8 % mechanical gates.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BD...D_p%C5%99ejezd

The number of accidents on the railway crossings went down in the last 20 years.
http://www.ibesip.cz/data/web/soubor...i-prejezdy.pdf


The drop in 2002/3 is caused by the introduction of the new law on the Road safety, that introduced more severe fines, point system, etc etc... It clearly worked.
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Old December 12th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #3290
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It looks like there's pretty poor infrastructute too, just look at the pedestrians, there's even no zebra crossing. It's a mess.
Technical standards don't allow zebra crossings that close to the railway crossings or junctions for safety reasons.
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Seriously, there aren't even traffic lights .
Are we talking about the same video? Because I can see three pairs of railroad crossing lights on both sides of the railroad in that particular video.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #3291
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Real traffic lights (green-yellow-red, in addition) are lacking, and would be welcome at least, because it's too easy to get confused between the pedestrians, crossroads and railroad crossing. A gate is definitely needed here. I hope that after this accident - which could had been fatal - they will instal one.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:41 AM   #3292
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The only 100% dumb-proof solution seems to be the Russian way.

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Old December 13th, 2015, 06:24 PM   #3293
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what are you talking about? Not in the least

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Old December 13th, 2015, 08:41 PM   #3294
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Clearly, what is needed here is more safety features, instead of all this mess, and barriers won't be any luxury. Saying that, zdorov'ye !
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Old December 14th, 2015, 12:02 AM   #3295
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Just a reminder that not even a crossing with gates can stop blind and deaf truck drivers from causing a massive accident.

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A Pendolino had an accident this morning on the Praha-Ostrava corridor near Studénka*. A Polish trucker ran a red light on a level crossing and after the gates closed the genius decided to leave his 40t lorry on the rails. Two people died and thirteen are injured. The engineer is said to have lost both of his legs...
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* A site of a 2008 tragedy when a bridge u/c fell in front of a EC train. Eight people lost their lives then.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 12:52 AM   #3296
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Clearly, what is needed here is more safety features, instead of all this mess, and barriers won't be any luxury.
When self-driving vehicles will have replaced human-driven vehicles, rail crossing accidents will be a rare problem. The change-over will occur quickly with trucks (because they will become economically compelling) and more slowly with cars (because some people like driving and others will be slow to trust self-driving cars).

Of course, self-driving vehicles will sometimes cause accidents, but far less often than human drivers. The computers will never get drunk, fall asleep, masturbate while driving, distract themselves with smoking or texting, etc.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 01:24 AM   #3297
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No but they could easily ignore the train schedule or the burnt-out signal lamp bulbs, etc...
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Old December 14th, 2015, 05:38 AM   #3298
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No but they could easily ignore the train schedule or the burnt-out signal lamp bulbs, etc...
The train schedule?!?!? I hope no one makes the decision to cross or not cross train tracks based on the train schedule.

Self-driving vehicles rely on multiple train detection systems, including looking for a train, whenever they either detect rail tracks or stored data indicates proximity.
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Old December 16th, 2015, 01:14 PM   #3299
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The northern part of the Chrudim bypass (I/37) opened to traffic today.

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Old December 16th, 2015, 08:54 PM   #3300
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ŘSD also made public the tender offers for the 10,5 kms of D3 0309/II Ševětín - Borek.
https://www.rsd.cz/wps/portal/web/do...b-a07d3824054d

There are in total 10 competitors in the tender. Eurovia made the best price offer with CZK 933 mln.

The projected costs of this project were estimated at CZK 1,4 mld. All tender offers went under this price tag.

The construction could start in the spring, but first RSD has to chose the winner and no one would have to appeal the decision etc...

The D3 alignment will follow the current I3 alignment, which has been built as half profile future motorway. There are even full profile bridges already, but I am not sure if they will need rebuilding.
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