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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:04 AM   #1641
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That's illegal. It's a violation of Article 22 of European Regulation 562/2006. If you have a photo of the 80 km/h sign, you could email it to the European Commission and complain. The EU can force the member states to eliminate illegal reduced speed limits at internal Schengen border crossings. Feel free to pm me for details.
It's not illegal, the stretch right at the former border crossing does not have proper setup to enable more than 80 km/h according to our laws. A complete removal of border crossing booths is due to begin next year, after that the speed can be raised to 130 km/h.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:33 PM   #1642
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Really?

I thought there was still a 70 km/h limit approaching Luxembourg from Belgium, and it's only a year or two since the 20 then 10 chicane was at last removed leaving Belgium near Tournai
Yes, really. Member states have been slow in complying with the law. The EU Commission has, in at least one case that I'm aware of because I filed the formal complaint, been reminding the member states of their legal obligations.

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It's not illegal, the stretch right at the former border crossing does not have proper setup to enable more than 80 km/h according to our laws. A complete removal of border crossing booths is due to begin next year, after that the speed can be raised to 130 km/h.
It is illegal. Member states are obligated by international law to comply with their treaty obligations, which in this case includes complying with all valid EU law because the member states have conferred competency in these areas to the EU. Any member state violating European Regulation 562/2006 is violating the law and may be fined by the European Court of Justice.

If the EU Commission were to sue the Czech Republic over this illegal 80 km/h speed limit, the ECJ would certainly order the Czech Republic to comply with the law and, if the Czech Republic were to continue to violate Article 22, then the ECJ would impose of fine (Greece was fined 20,000 euro per day) until the Czech Republic comply.

The time to come into compliance was between the promulgation of European Regulation 562/2006 and the date the law went into effect. Member states that didn't remove the obstructions during that time are simply disrespectful of the law and disrespectful of the right of EU citizens to cross internal Schengen borders without hinderance.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:46 PM   #1643
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Ok, you may have your own view of the term hinderance, on the other hand, there are no police checks nor artificial constructions, that tend to hinder those who want to cross the border. In fact, it would be illegal according to czech law to impose 130 km/h limit there, because the road there does not comply with motorway standards. As soon as the reconstruction works to the new 130 km/h standard is ready, the speed limit can be raised. There is no other way to make it legal nowadays ... You know very well that this 80 km/h limit is just nothing compared to those 20/30 km/h limits on many other western borders.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:50 PM   #1644
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Also between Austria and Germany border (Passau), there is speed limit that goes even to 40 km/h, I've driven there...
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Old November 28th, 2011, 03:58 PM   #1645
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The aforementioned article 22 itself states:
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Member States shall remove all obstacles to fluid traffic flow at road crossing-points at internal borders, in particular any speed limits not exclusively based on road-safety considerations.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #1646
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Ok, you may have your own view of the term hinderance, on the other hand, there are no police checks nor artificial constructions, that tend to hinder those who want to cross the border. In fact, it would be illegal according to czech law to impose 130 km/h limit there, because the road there does not comply with motorway standards. As soon as the reconstruction works to the new 130 km/h standard is ready, the speed limit can be raised. There is no other way to make it legal nowadays ... You know very well that this 80 km/h limit is just nothing compared to those 20/30 km/h limits on many other western borders.
The Czech Republic is obligated by the EU law I cited above to make that reconstruction. The Czech Republic is in violation of the law because they are years late in fulfilling their obligation to remove obstacles to fluid traffic flow. That reconstruction should (by EU law) have been completed years ago.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:08 PM   #1647
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Also between Austria and Germany border (Passau), there is speed limit that goes even to 40 km/h, I've driven there...
60km/h at Walserberg (Salzburg). In my opinion there's no safety reason for this, exactly like on the Passau-border.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:12 PM   #1648
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Also between Austria and Germany border (Passau), there is speed limit that goes even to 40 km/h, I've driven there...
There are lots of these all around the Schengen Zone and they're all illegal. The member states have been slow in complying with their legal obligations to remove these because the EU Commission haven't been putting much pressure on the member states to comply because few citizens have been complaining to the EU about this violation of their right to the free movement of persons. If a handful of people would take photos of these illegal speed limits at border crossings and complain to the Commission, the EU would come down harder on the member states and the free flow of traffic would come about a lot sooner.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:18 PM   #1649
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mcarling, given that EU treaties prohibit the bailing out of member states, it's clear that EU law is more guidelines than hard and fast rules - even the law makers themselves are happy to break their own laws in the legislature.

Trying to bring about frivolous lawsuits to make it so that people's journeys are improved by 10 seconds seems very petty to me.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 04:32 PM   #1650
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There were no "natural" safety reasons, they put beacons, and police cars were watching you. Anyway, that slowdown didn't bother me really.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #1651
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Today, a very important link in northern part of Prague, Vysočanská radiála, has been put into operation. It serves temporarily as a part of Prague ring road. Here are some videos:


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Old November 28th, 2011, 11:54 PM   #1652
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The EU Commission has, in at least one case that I'm aware of because I filed the formal complaint, been reminding the member states of their legal obligations.


It is illegal. Member states are obligated by international law to comply with their treaty obligations, which in this case includes complying with all valid EU law because the member states have conferred competency in these areas to the EU. Any member state violating European Regulation 562/2006 is violating the law and may be fined by the European Court of Justice.

If the EU Commission were to sue the Czech Republic over this illegal 80 km/h speed limit, the ECJ would certainly order the Czech Republic to comply with the law and, if the Czech Republic were to continue to violate Article 22, then the ECJ would impose of fine (Greece was fined 20,000 euro per day) until the Czech Republic comply.
Thanks for info and your effort flunkey. Another good reason to leave Schengen area ASAP if not this EU altogether.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 03:35 AM   #1653
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I have read somewhere on Polish forum that motorway D1 from Ostrava to the Polish border is going to be toll free (no need for vignette).
Is it true?
If yes that is an excellent news as I also read somewhere that Polish road authority is going to keep our A1 from the border to Gliwice toll free.

I was always hoping for such situation as it will help integration of our border regions. Especially Ostrava with Rybnik region. For example if I was occasionally driving to shop in Ostrava I wouldn't buy annual vignette. I would choose local roads or avoid such trips altogether. Free motorways will encourage trips like this.

I see a lot of similarities with French - Belgian border around Lille. There are no tolls on motorways there even if most of French motorways are tolled.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #1654
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Yep, from 1st January 2012 a new decree of the Transport Ministry becomes effective regarding list of tolled section and the section Ostrava, Rudná - state border is not in the list, thus it's toll free. It is a decision based on mutual agreement between Ministry of Transport and Ministry of Environment, because Ostrava region suffers from excessive levels of harmful particles in the air, therefore as a compensation the two-year-toll-free-motorway-trial has been agreed. It may sound silly but it's true ...
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Old December 18th, 2011, 11:25 PM   #1655
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Are there any recent developments regarding D8 Lovosice – Řehlovice?
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Old December 19th, 2011, 02:52 AM   #1656
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Are there any recent developments regarding D8 Lovosice – Řehlovice?
They should be opening some 3 km perhaps already this week. But it is not so clear if they would. It is about section Lovosice - Bílinka. Map: http://www.mapy.cz/s/2HvI, which actually does solve only bypassing of some roundabouts and interchanges.



The other development is that EU commision will not pay substantial amount (nothing) of the promised funds because of the not clear pricing, awarding of contract, processing etc.

Furthermore there are still building permissions pending to be given as well as the revoked area plan decision. This whole lays on the speed of czech bureaucrats and speed of czech courts decisions, where organisation Children of the Earth takes a part.

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Old December 19th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #1657
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D11 Hradec Králové - Praha


Another set of the Czech motorway system. This time the D11 westbound along the entire length from Hradec Králové to Praha (Prague).

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Old December 19th, 2011, 04:08 PM   #1660
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Is there any works on D11 between the 1-20km?? The concrete is the most damaged there. On the pic 43 the are new asphalt
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