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Old December 19th, 2011, 05:03 PM   #1661
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There were some roadworks around km 21 (notable improvement) and some microlayer repairs closer to Prague (on the picture, not that good). Rest of the "stairs" left untouched.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #1662
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Maybe we can make an inventory of bad motorway sections in the Czech Republic.

From what I've driven;

D3: good quality, except Tabor bypass (track formation but not bumpy)
D5: good quality
D8: good quality
D11: good quality, except for the last 20 or so km to Praha
R1: good quality, some sections are noisy
R4: good quality
R6: good quality
R7: poor quality, bumpy
R10: good quality
R35: good quality

I've only driven D1 as far as I/3, but I've read most of the road to Brno is mediocre to poor quality. I've also read D1 around Vyskov is very poor quality.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 06:33 PM   #1663
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I've only driven D1 as far as I/3, but I've read most of the road to Brno is mediocre to poor quality. I've also read D1 around Vyskov is very poor quality.
D1 between Brno and Vyskov is in very poor quality (196km-226km).
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Old December 20th, 2011, 12:44 AM   #1664
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D2 - horrible
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Old December 20th, 2011, 01:27 AM   #1665
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D2 - horrible
I drove the D2 from Brno to Bratislava about 18 months ago. It was ok then.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #1666
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D2 is much better than D1
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:50 AM   #1667
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I agree that the Brno - Vyškov part is the worst of czech motorways. D2 Brno - Bratislava is old concrete, but apart of being noisy and sometimes shaky, it's in good condition.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 10:00 AM   #1668
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I agree that the Brno - Vyškov part is the worst of czech motorways.
I also drove the D1 from Vyškov to Brno about 18 months ago, on my way from Katowice to Bratislava. I don't remember anything bad about that section, perhaps, after the non-motorway experience from Stanowice to Ostrava, a bad motorway seemed wonderful.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 04:24 PM   #1669
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I also drove the D1 from Vyškov to Brno about 18 months ago, on my way from Katowice to Bratislava. I don't remember anything bad about that section, perhaps, after the non-motorway experience from Stanowice to Ostrava, a bad motorway seemed wonderful.
D1 Brno - Vyškov is terrible quality 1+1 road (nicknamed the Stairway, or the Left lane). One cannot even think of using the right lane at all. I always drive like >180 since flying over the holes and "stairs" is the only way to survive. Definitely the worst stretch in CZ.

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Maybe we can make an inventory of bad motorway sections in the Czech Republic.

From what I've driven;

D3: good quality, except Tabor bypass (track formation but not bumpy)
D5: good quality
D8: good quality
D11: good quality, except for the last 20 or so km to Praha
R1: good quality, some sections are noisy
R4: good quality
R6: good quality
R7: poor quality, bumpy
R10: good quality
R35: good quality

I've only driven D1 as far as I/3, but I've read most of the road to Brno is mediocre to poor quality. I've also read D1 around Vyskov is very poor quality.
I don't think R1 is any noisier than others. R48 - its concrete section - is noisier. R35 as well.
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Old December 20th, 2011, 09:04 PM   #1670
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D1 Brno - Vyškov is terrible quality 1+1 road (nicknamed the Stairway, or the Left lane). One cannot even think of using the right lane at all. I always drive like >180 since flying over the holes and "stairs" is the only way to survive. Definitely the worst stretch in CZ.
Are they any plans to rebuild this road in near future ?
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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:12 PM   #1671
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D1 Praha-Vyskov will be rebuilt in next ten years : http://www.radio.cz/en/section/curra...-coming-decade
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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:26 PM   #1672
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D1 Praha-Vyskov will be rebuilt in next ten years : http://www.radio.cz/en/section/curra...-coming-decade
The scope of the aforementioned project contains only section between km 21 and 182 (Praha - Brno). Brno bypass is planned to be rebuilt as 3+3 in late 2010'/early 2020's. Brno - Vyškov section is subject to some local fixes only, no complex plan yet.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:37 PM   #1673
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how much will cost this ??
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Old December 21st, 2011, 10:49 PM   #1674
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Approx. 1 mld. € (or 1 billion € in imperial prefixes - I always get confused i this)
Maybe IT-units might be the best, then it's 1 giga €
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Old December 21st, 2011, 11:21 PM   #1675
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Isn't there a possibility to widen some sections to 3 lanes? They did this on A7 and A45 in Germany, where certain sections have 3 lanes.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 11:31 PM   #1676
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There are already tens of kms where climbing lanes occur, those lanes will be kept. The main aim of this reconstruction is to widen the carriageway to 11,75/12 meters to allow 2+2 traffic on one carriageway during roadworks and this must all be done within the current land annexation so there is no need of land purchase or expropriation. Our law is a real pain in the ass or let's just say mess when it comes to planning and building new roads...

At first, projects made it possible to extend the carriageway to standard 3+3 layout but this possibility was left out in further stages.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 11:40 PM   #1677
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 12:22 AM   #1678
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Are they any plans to rebuild this road in near future ?
Starting in summer 2138 :-(
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 10:12 PM   #1679
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There were several managers from RSD arrested today because of corruption and losss to the state organisation. One of them is former director of the RSD (higways and motorway directorate - in charge of the higways and motorways, investor, etc.).

The charges are based on the fact that instead of renting the rest areas (year 2006 around D1 and D5) directly to the final firms. Those were rented through middleman companies, with estimated loss to the state in 10nths million euro.

According to the daily press, police caught the middleman handing a kickback to one of the managers. The middleman also faces charges.

Good work!! Just hope we will see more of the police work in recent years, investigating past cases and that villains will get scared to behave in this way.
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Old December 24th, 2011, 12:39 PM   #1680
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That 3.5 km long section of D8 at Lovosice - Bílinka althoug finished still not open due to the anti noise glass roof over a bridge at Vchinice which doesnt correspond with the project and needs supplementary building permit (video video link) . It could take another half year they say to issue it.

On the other side. Authorities finally issued new territory decision together with all building permits for the rest of the half built motorway section. Nice that they finally issed all the permits at the same time.

(the old ones were abolished due to the many courts with green organisation). Now there is 30 days deadline for appeals going.
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