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Old March 19th, 2012, 08:04 PM   #1741
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This is the part of Lovosice - Řehlovice section, that has problems with zoning and building permits, that were revoked by courts. If everythings goes well, constructor needs 30 months from the restart of works (hopefully in April) to complete the whole section.
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What is on this photo ?

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@ Surel - I was thinking about this monument in the middle of the photo.

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Old March 19th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #1742
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Its this point on the map http://www.mapy.cz/s/3lv3

Current end of D8, it becomes R63 there. There is supposed to be interchange D8xR63, D8 goes from left and will continue in the middle of the picture to the horizon to Prague. R63 goes to the right.

Thats also the reason why finishing D8 would take at least 2 years after the papers are again in order... because of that interchange.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #1743
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Surel: Thanks for the "noise limits" summary.
I have to say, czech regulations are a bit outdated in this particular field. Fortunately, Ministry of Health is working on a new Noise Act, that is supposed to abolish measuring actual values before and after construction everywhere and using noise maps and zones instead. Let's just hope they'll prepare it fast and solid ...
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Old March 19th, 2012, 10:29 PM   #1744
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There is similar formulation in the Czech law about too high cost. But I am not sure if there is a formula specified for it. Thus that leaves lots of room for appealing, court decissions and in general delaying the construction and being pain in the ass.
Appeals happen everywhere, at virtually every project that affects people in some way. The key to success is not to hope nobody will appeal, but by solid decisions and lawmaking.

In the Netherlands such an appeal would be easy; someone appeals, judge points out the legal formula, appeal rejected, case closed. It's important such legal stuff is not open to interpretation and implemented the way it should, then you won't have to worry about NIMBY's appealing.

Delays caused by NIMBY's are the result of sloppy work by the authorities, not the existence and appeals of the NIMBY's.
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Old March 19th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #1745
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Thats what I had in mind...Thanks for formulating it better.

Also, the noise walls are then partly mayve result of this lack of rigorousness, because they represent the play safe variant.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 03:26 PM   #1746
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Interesting evolvement in the case RSD versus Eurovia about the waves on D1 in Ostrava.

RSD came with a expert opinion they found in the files of another court proceedings of Eurovia. That opinion was made for eurovia in 2009 because Eurovia went to court with one of its suppliers. The expert opinion that Eurovia ordered stated that the material supplied to Eurovia doesnt comply with the project documentation and Eurovia demanded compensation from the supplier.

Funny. Eurovia denies, that the problems with the motorways are its responsibility to the RSD, and says that the material used was the correct and approved one. In the same time Eurovia suits one of its suppliers on the reasons that the supplied material was not correct and approved.

I wouldnt let Eurovia build any meter of a road in the CZ again.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 03:48 PM   #1747
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There was something of a scandal about Eurovia in Poland as well. Something about cracks and lies, I don't know the exact story.

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/10621/...e-3-klamstwami
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Old March 21st, 2012, 04:53 PM   #1748
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There was something of a scandal about Eurovia in Poland as well. Something about cracks and lies, I don't know the exact story.

http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/pl/a/10621/...e-3-klamstwami
It's not really about Eurovia, more of a "everyone vs GDDKiA" kind of fight
Surface cracks appeared on many motorways under construction, including A2 built by Eurovia. All companies involved claim, that the technology chosen by GDDKiA is at fault, which sort of makes sense, considering cracks appeared pretty much everywhere - on A1, A2, A4... Eurovia claimed that they informed GDDKiA last year that this problem could occur. GDDKiA claims the technology is not to blame (and looks like they have data to back this up, but I'm not an expert), instead they have proof that cracks are a result of errors made by the contractors. If this thing goes to court, it's gonna be an endless battle of expert witnesses.

As for situation on D1 - it's not really that big of a surprise, large companies always do everything in their power to hide stuff like that. It's kind of foolish though, that they went through with demanding compensation from the supplier. All of that shows, that the most important thing when building roads is having reliable and independent quality audits.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #1749
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RadosławJ from Polish board visited D1 near the border, from Bohumín to where it meets our A1. Below is one of the photos as an appetizer, if you'd like to see more, head over here.



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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #1750
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Thx for the link, nice photos...
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #1751
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Hi
Some actually photos from R48 construction, section Rychaltice - Frýdek-Místek with lenght 7,1km
http://gallery.ceskedalnice.cz/index...32012/DSC_5678
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Old March 31st, 2012, 04:24 PM   #1752
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There is a interesting video comparing travel times in first 5 kms of the tunnel Blanka that is under construction (Prague inner city ring) and on the surface. There are some shots from insdie the tunnel and lots of talking in czech from a tv show.

http://mestskyokruh.info/severozapad...tunelu-blanka/
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 10:57 PM   #1753
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new 'anti speeder' and 'anti thief' czech police fleet of WV Passat B7 V6 FSI 299hp
http://auto.idnes.cz/foto.aspx?r=aut...ava-zpravy_jog
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 07:19 PM   #1754
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nice to post czech news in international forum
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Old April 5th, 2012, 03:15 AM   #1755
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nice to post czech news in international forum
Don't worry, some of us understand Czech

BTW, I can see that some of the Czech cops are quite attractive
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Old April 5th, 2012, 12:45 PM   #1756
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I wonder what do they really need leather seats (+2260 euro) or satnav (+2055 euro) for...
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Old April 5th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #1757
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How much did one car cost?
I remember a scandal in Romania, when the police bought Logan MCVs, and one cost 70000 euros.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 02:04 PM   #1758
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PLH: They weren't purchased for the list prices anyway.
cinxxx: ~60000 €, including the police equipment.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #1759
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I wonder what do they really need leather seats (+2260 euro) or satnav (+2055 euro) for...
Doesn't police have their own satnav system? I think some countries do.
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Old April 6th, 2012, 04:34 PM   #1760
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I wonder what do they really need leather seats (+2260 euro) or satnav (+2055 euro) for...
I think these are default with that config. Not really sure about that.
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