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Old November 28th, 2012, 08:46 PM   #2181
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N165 Brest - Nantes

Part 3.1: Quimper - Lorient.

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Old November 28th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #2182
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Is this a tolled road?
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Old November 28th, 2012, 09:56 PM   #2183
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No. There are no toll roads in all of Bretagne (Brittany). They were exempted from toll roads in the 1970s with the so-called "Plan routier Breton".
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #2184
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It's seems no tolled road.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #2185
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These are the toll-free expressways of Bretagne.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #2186
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No. There are no toll roads in all of Bretagne (Brittany). They were exempted from toll roads in the 1970s with the so-called "Plan routier Breton".
why?
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #2187
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Bretagne was historically isolated. Charles de Gaulle laid out this Plan routier Breton in 1969, with three east-west axis, the center one being a 3-lane road. They planned a network of 1.000 kilometers of high-standard routes to be constructed between 1970 and 1995.

Unfortunately very little is known about the opening dates of the expressways in Bretagne.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 10:47 PM   #2188
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Old November 29th, 2012, 11:58 AM   #2189
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I like the french signalization
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:18 PM   #2190
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that sounds to me like a cheap excuse. how come they are the only ones using this kind of signalisation?
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Old November 29th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #2191
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that sounds to me like a cheap excuse. how come they are the only ones using this kind of signalisation?
They're not.
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Old December 2nd, 2012, 03:17 PM   #2192
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Looks like this road was originally built with concrete tiles and then covered with tarmac (pic. 41).
Its was, indeed. Though I don't remember of the exact extend of the concrete surface, it was at least the stretch covered by post #2177. It was resurfaced around 10 to 15 years ago, IIRC, and was a nice treat for the ears.

The quality of the expressways in Brittany varies at lot from place to place. In some places little more than a new carriageway was build next to the existing road, keeping at-grade junctions and winding ROW. In other places whole new stretches of dual carriageway roads with grade-seperated junctions were built. Everything has been constantly enhanced bit by bit so now there are some motorway-like stretches, with hard shoulder, at-grade junctions are mostly a thing from the past and the network is nearing completion. It really takes a lot of time, but that's a side effect of not having tolled roads. (Which I'm not complaining about.)

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Unfortunately very little is known about the opening dates of the expressways in Bretagne.
If you don't mind some French, lots of data can be found in this book: Le plan routier breton. (Though it's more than 10 years old now, so it's a bit outdated.)
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Old December 6th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #2193
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N165 Brest - Nantes

Driving eastbound from Lorient towards Vannes...

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Old December 7th, 2012, 12:06 AM   #2194
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you covered almost entire Bretagne! Nice pics, although driving there must be pretty boring I guess.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #2195
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Seems to me it's not the most boring in France. You got some hilly area, lot of green around and the traffic is enough to keep you concentrated.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 11:10 AM   #2196
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Boring? Landes de Gascogne are boring. This is as fun as it gets
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Old December 8th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #2197
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IDK, I see same exact trees on each photo
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Old December 8th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #2198
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The coast of Bretagne is very scenic, with high rock cliffs or lagoons. Some areas have palm trees, I've seen this along the north coast (I didn't expect that there). The expressways run somewhat inland though, and are hilly. They're not terribly boring, but also not exciting, it's not the Alps or Massif Central.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #2199
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These are the toll-free expressways of Bretagne.
So, do I understand correctly that all the intercity routes in blue are tolled?


What is the toll rate per km and how are the tolls collected, automatically or manually? I assume the national Govt collects the money, but is it distributed to local governments or spent by the national Govt?
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Old December 8th, 2012, 12:14 PM   #2200
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The blue routes are Autoroutes (prefix A). They are usually tolled, but some aren't.

The tolls vary by route and toll operator. Generally older toll roads are cheaper than newer ones and Alpine toll routes. Toll rates generally vary from € 0.07 to € 0.15 per kilometer. Driving north to south through France can easily cost you € 60 - 70 by car.
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