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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #2221
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The Spanish service areas can be pretty bad
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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #2222
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The problem with French rest areas is that they mostly smell very strongly of silage (or maybe it was just two or three that scarred me forever?). Lunch was the part of my trips through France that I looked forward too the least - struggling to eat a picnic due to the smell. The facilities were good, and the smaller rest areas are something that I (as a Brit) think should be encouraged here, but the smell!
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Old December 14th, 2012, 11:53 PM   #2223
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The Spanish service areas can be pretty bad
I was never disppointed by spanish service areas.
except sometimes by the reception, very cold without any politeness.
But we can meet this kind of reception everywhere.
The problem there, comes from the traffic sign about service areas, they are very bad indicated.Particularly on A 66 (Benavente- Vigo).
I try to stop in Cepsa (Total) service areas because I have a diesel card, but nothing is indicated before on the road.
And most of the service areas are outside "autovias", along the old national road.
The best is you can eat everywhere 24 h a day.
I like the road between Irun and Valencia (N 121, N 232, A 23), towards Madrid ( A1) or Sevilla (A66).
Several areas are open every time.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #2224
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Some photos from the following route. It's not the conventional route from Luxembourg to Paris but it avoids a part of the tolls and is 10km shorter. Also I think it is more spectacular. Pics are from Easter 2012 holliday.

1. We just entered France, on N52:



2. 2+2 turns in 1+1:



3. On E44, towards Sedan:



4. Montmedy:



5. 2+2 again as we are near Sedan:



6. A34, between Charleville-Mezieres and Reims:



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Old December 15th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #2225
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could it be more french than that?

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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:20 PM   #2226
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could it be more french than that?
I also liked that pic, even without the signs many people here would have guessed the photo was shot in France
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Old December 15th, 2012, 02:24 PM   #2227
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10. Rethel bypass is just an expressway, not motorway:


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13. Near Reims:


14. Inside Reims, didn't used the bypass that leads directly to A4, we wanted to go through the town:



15. Now we are on A4, the former part of the motorway, which passes near the town center:



16. A4, from Reims to Paris:



17. Traffic on A4, near Paris (should have covered the signs and post the pics in guess the highway thread, seem nice for that thread, not so easy to tell the exact location):



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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:07 PM   #2228
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Now we are on A4, the former part of the motorway, which passes near the town center:
A4 through Reims, A6 through Lyon... I like the french spirit from 60s-70s

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17. Traffic on A4, near Paris (should have covered the signs and post the pics in guess the highway thread, seem nice for that thread, not so easy to tell the exact location):

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It's weird how you have to use a national road to get to A86 from A4 westbound.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:29 PM   #2229
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It's weird how you have to use a national road to get to A86 from A4 westbound.
No, you don't. A86 goes directly from A4 immediately after the place I took photo no 17. You can see how A86 goes directly from A4 through that tunnel.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:41 PM   #2230
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my mistake then. the map is confusing https://maps.google.si/?ll=48.833622...42272&t=m&z=15
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Old December 15th, 2012, 04:44 PM   #2231
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my mistake then. the map is confusing https://maps.google.si/?ll=48.833622...42272&t=m&z=15
You can see on Gmaps that dotted line going from that interchange direction north, to the other part of the tunnel. Route.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #2232
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but I was thinking A4 westbound -> A86
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Old December 15th, 2012, 05:42 PM   #2233
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but I was thinking A4 westbound -> A86
Oh, sorry, you are right then, but the non-motorway section seems to be very short, immediately after that bridge you enter a tunnel and merge with A86.
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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #2234
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Now photos from Paris-Rouen. I used the non-toll alternative A15+D6014, instead of the tolled A13. The chosen route is 15 km shorter.

Route

1.A86, in Paris metropolitan area:



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Old December 15th, 2012, 06:33 PM   #2235
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11. St. Denis Stadium (Stade de France):



12. Still A86:



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14. We enter A15:


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24. After Pontoise, A15 becomes a 2+2 expressway:



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29. Rouen suburbs:



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31. Rouen, you can see the nice cathedral of the city:

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Old December 15th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #2237
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nice pics, you missed the Seine viaduct at Gennevilliers though
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nice pics, you missed the Seine viaduct at Gennevilliers though
Thank you, unfortunately I missed it
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Old December 15th, 2012, 09:35 PM   #2239
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Oh, sorry, you are right then, but the non-motorway section seems to be very short, immediately after that bridge you enter a tunnel and merge with A86.
Very short but quite an issue there! At the end of the exit ramp you have a traffic light it is not uncommon to wait 25 minutes to get through. Then the two northbound lanes on the bridge merge for the single lane access ramp to the tunnel.
It is really one of the most problematic point of Paris freeway system.
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