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Old March 17th, 2013, 03:19 PM   #2341
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The A5 will get more traffic when the A319 opens (projected for 2018 last I knew).
Where the A319 will lead?
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Old March 17th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #2342
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West of Vesoul (for now).
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #2343
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Where the A319 will lead?
After completion, the A319 (and the A5) will carry the traffic between the Paris area and the Basel / Zurich area.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 10:54 PM   #2344
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Nice pictures. They sum up what driving in France is like for me



Superb video! Led me to an hour or so of research about Martinique in French Wikipédia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinique

The Route: http://goo.gl/maps/5ZsHu
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #2345
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Continuing with pics from A5:

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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:54 PM   #2346
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After completion, the A319 (and the A5) will carry the traffic between the Paris area and the Basel / Zurich area.
Why they will use a 3-digit number for quite a long motorway? They could simply name A5, it's like a continuation of that motorway.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:59 PM   #2347
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Why they will use a 3-digit number for quite a long motorway? They could simply name A5, it's like a continuation of that motorway.
Given what I know, I also would have named it A5. Someday it might be named A5. I guess there was probably a political reason for choosing a three-digit number, but I cannot guess the specific reason.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #2348
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Old March 18th, 2013, 12:10 AM   #2349
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56. Continuing a little bit on A31 direction Nancy, till the first exit:


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Old March 18th, 2013, 03:20 AM   #2350
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N19 direction Basel after that?
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:40 AM   #2351
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N19 direction Basel after that?
Probably most traffic would take the N19 to Lure, the N438 to Belfort, and then the A36 and A35 to Basel (the E54 from Paris as far as Mulhouse), but some would take the D419 after Belfort.

When the A319 has been completed, the Paris - Zurich traffic (which is now split between the A5 and the A6) will nearly all use the A5, which I expect will result in pressure to extend the A319 to Lure or Belfort. Vesoul - Lure will become the bottleneck.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 02:59 PM   #2352
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I think there will be a continuous motorway from Belfort to Langres some day... A36 is pretty busy today carrying different transits.
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N19 direction Basel after that?
After that I've been to Montbeliard driving on N9+D9+some other county roads.From Montbeliard A36 to Germany.
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Old March 18th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #2354
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I think there will be a continuous motorway from Belfort to Langres some day.
I agree. I think it's only a question of when. The need will become ineluctably clear during the years following the opening of the A319.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 05:07 AM   #2355
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Last week we learned a bit more about the long awaited opening of the bridge over the Oyapock River. According to the governor of the Brazilian state of Amapá, the bridge could finally open in... September 2014 (that's September of NEXT year)!

Apparently the access road to the bridge on the Brazilian side of the border is almost complete, but after having botched the public tender for the customs house and border checkpoint on the Brazilian side of the bridge, they only have found now a contractor, and it could take until September 2014 before the contractor completes the Brazilian customs house and border checkpoint buildings. The governor of Amapá said September 2014 was the latest time at which the work would be completed, but it's possible it will be completed before.

It's just incredible that a country the size of Brazil, which pretends to become a developed country that matters in the world, is taking THREE YEARS to open a bridge whose construction ended in August 2011 (all access roads and custom buildings were already ready on the French side of the border by 2011). Unbelievable!
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La 8ème réunion de la commission mixte transfrontalière s’est achevée hier soir (mercredi 13 mars 2013) au terme de trois jours de réflexion à Cayenne. Ouverture du pont sur l’Oyapock, coopération Guyane-Brésil, carte transfrontalière…des sujets qui ont attiré notre attention.




Comment évoquer les questions de coopération sans évoquer le pont de l’Oyapock ? Si l’ouvrage est terminé côté français, les travaux côté Brésilien sont loin d’être achevés. L’ouverture tant attendue ne sera donc pas pour tout de suite. Le gouverneur de l’Amapa, Camilo Peribe, annonce un délai maximum de 540 jours. « On a l’accès qui est presque prêt. Pour l’installation frontalière, on a une compagnie qui a répondu à l’appel d’offre. Dans un délai de 540 jours on devrait avoir l’installation. C’est long c’est vrai, mais au moins maintenant on a un délai et on va travailler. 540 jours c’est une vision pessimiste mais c’est pour ne pas donner une date qui ne sera pas réalisable. Je pense qu’on avancera avec sécurité et ça va marcher peut-être plus tôt que ça. »


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Well, I think Brazil's priorities are pretty much elsewhere than near the French border in the middle of nowhere. There wasn't even a paved road within a couple hundred of kilometers from the border until recently.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #2357
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Well, I think Brazil's priorities are pretty much elsewhere than near the French border in the middle of nowhere. There wasn't even a paved road within a couple hundred of kilometers from the border until recently.
I think the issue is that both countries signed a treaty to build the bridge (back in 2006) and the slow pace of works there is due to mismanagement and bureaucracy, not lack of money.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 05:16 PM   #2358
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Well, I think Brazil's priorities are pretty much elsewhere than near the French border in the middle of nowhere. There wasn't even a paved road within a couple hundred of kilometers from the border until recently.
If their priorities were elsewhere, they wouldn't have built the bridge in the first place. The reality is they built a bridge without even thinking of building an access road and the customs house and federal police checkpoint. That tells you something about planning and management in Brazil.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 06:17 PM   #2359
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The Rocade of FDF and the most southern 7km of the French Autoroutes:


http://routes.wikia.com/wiki/Autorou...A7aise_A1_(972)

I'm pretty sure the most southern French Autoroute would be on La Reunion, right ?
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Old March 20th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #2360
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I'm pretty sure the most southern French Autoroute would be on La Reunion, right ?
Nope. See my next post.
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