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Old September 2nd, 2013, 02:01 PM   #2561
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They build a new tollbooth a few meters closer to the boarder.
When did this happen? I could feel the Spanish breathing in my neck when paying the tolls at the original toll booth...
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Old September 2nd, 2013, 03:02 PM   #2562
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They build the new tollbooth where the boarder facilities were before. Take a look at google Streetview!

Now, the breath you felt is still wet
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Old September 8th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #2563
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An interesting view of the motorway in the outskirts of Papeete, Tahiti, that I've found on the net.

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Old September 8th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #2564
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An interesting view of the motorway in the outskirts of Papeete, Tahiti, that I've found on the net.
Welcome back! Haven't seen you for a while.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #2565
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A10 (L'Aquitaine heading south):



Construction sign on the A10:


Bordeaux-Centre: 16MN:


Rocade A630 (Bordeaux):





A63:


Entering the A63:


Electronic Sign on the A63 (My Phone wasn't able to take a good picture of it..):


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Took all those pictures last July while heading to Morocco.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #2566
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Took all those pictures last July while heading to Morocco. [/QUOTE]

I see you went through the northern and western Bordeaux bypass instead of eastern and southern parts of it.
Normally, I and people travelling to the south take the exit before the "pont d'aquitaine" bridge because of its 70 km/h speed limit and its f....g electronic radar at the bottom of the descent.
And this stretch is only a 2x2 lanes. 3x3 lanes for the other part.
A widening of a small stretch in under construction as we can see on your photos.
Don't forget to take the good exit the next time . But it's not doubtful.
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Old September 30th, 2013, 11:13 PM   #2567
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Haha, i don't know the road's around there so i just used my GPS.. I normally take the L'Autoroute Du Soleil till Lyon anyways, and then descend further past Montpellier, Perpignan etc..
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Old October 1st, 2013, 06:43 AM   #2568
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Haha, i don't know the road's around there so i just used my GPS.. I normally take the L'Autoroute Du Soleil till Lyon anyways, and then descend further past Montpellier, Perpignan etc..
Ah, you prefer the longer and more expensive way instead of taking the Clermont-Ferrand route.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 06:55 AM   #2569
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Ah, you prefer the longer and more expensive way instead of taking the Clermont-Ferrand route.
Nope, actually the A31 from the French/Luxembourg border till Lyon, and then the A7. Then onto the A9 till the Spanish border, and from there the AP-7/A7 all the way down till Algeciras.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 07:24 AM   #2570
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Touristic routes. I use the Bordeaux route for Portugal, Madrid, Málaga and Gibraltar - and the Paris, Clermont-Ferrand route for Barcelona and Valencia...
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Old October 1st, 2013, 07:40 AM   #2571
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Touristic routes. I use the Bordeaux route for Portugal, Madrid, Málaga and Gibraltar - and the Paris, Clermont-Ferrand route for Barcelona and Valencia...
Well, i have family in Dijon where i can rest/sleep at. (It's 700KM from my hometown) And the coastal route is better because there are like shops at the side of the road like everywhere.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 08:22 AM   #2572
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Same as all other routes...
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:49 AM   #2573
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Including as a bonus that the route through Clermont-Ferrand lets you drive on Viaduc de Milleau, if I'm not mistaken
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Old October 1st, 2013, 01:03 PM   #2574
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That's right!
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Nope, actually the A31 from the French/Luxembourg border till Lyon, and then the A7. Then onto the A9 till the Spanish border, and from there the AP-7/A7 all the way down till Algeciras.
But AP-7 is tolled until Valencia, and if you go from Irun only have few tolls. A-8 until San Sebastian and then AP-1 between Miranda and Burgos. Toll free then until Algeciras.
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Haha, i don't know the road's around there so i just used my GPS.. I normally take the L'Autoroute Du Soleil till Lyon anyways, and then descend further past Montpellier, Perpignan etc..
Never believe a GPS !
This is very good to find an address in a city or even in the middle of nowhere but useless, or less useful, when you travel.
That's only my opinion.
A map is still the best thing to choose a road, with the help of google maps for exemple before to take the road.
Those who did deliveries like me when we hadn't mobile phone and GPS know what I mean.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 02:44 PM   #2577
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But AP-7 is tolled until Valencia, and if you go from Irun only have few tolls. A-8 until San Sebastian and then AP-1 between Miranda and Burgos. Toll free then until Algeciras.
And even without tolls between SS and Burgos with the A1 and good old N1.
I always take those roads when I'am not in a hurry.
Many portugueses and moroccans prefer them when they return to visit their families.
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Old October 1st, 2013, 11:48 PM   #2578
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(A63) Last Toll Booth - Spanish Border:
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Old October 4th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #2579
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A4 from Metz to Strasbourg (iNterchange A4xA35):
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Ah, you prefer the longer and more expensive way instead of taking the Clermont-Ferrand route.
I once drove from Spain to Belgium using the A75 instead of the Lyon route. The Clermont Ferrand route is only shorter on paper. In reality it's longer (in travel time) and more exhausting because of the curves and slopes, some sections are limited to only 90 or even 70. Unlike the A7 which is mostly very straight and has 2x3 lanes and has more frequent and larger rest areas. So you get more value for your toll money.

In term of costs in my experience there was no significant advantage in using the A75. Over long distances there is not a big difference in cost/km when passing north-south through France for both routes. Plus you get to refuel a bit cheaper in Luxembourg if you use the Lyon route.

The only advantage i can think of for using the A75 is the more scenic landscapes (at least if you drive through it by day), and it can serve as an alternative if there are traffic jams on the A9/A7.
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