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Old October 9th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #2601
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Even I remember that crossing Tours without motorway was horrible...

Well, at the end it depends on the time your have and how much fun you wanna have
I prefer this kind of fun when sceneries are beautiful.
Like when I take mountainous roads.Or coastal roads.
But not along the A10, very boring.
Fortunately for me, I live in a quiet place. Some of the forumers don't like my place because they think it's a no man's land.
Yes and no, but I don't live in Extremadura (E) or Alentejo (P) !
And I hate traffic jams !
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Old October 9th, 2013, 10:11 PM   #2602
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Dax? Well, for me Les Landes are just calm and lovely... and my source for cheap pinewood... hahahaha
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Old October 9th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #2603
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It had 5 600 vehicles per day in the first year of operation, but I don't know if this is a segment volume, or the total amount of transactions for the entire route (if it is the latter, you can't directly compare it to regular traffic counts).
My local newspaper wrote that this highway is already in the red.
The traffic is very low and always will be low.
Our local politicians decided to built this highway instead to widen the road in 2x2.
Too bad for us. We will have to pay for both tomorrow.
I drove once all the way of this A65 and the price for a van is incredibily high.
I was sick !
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Old October 9th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #2604
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Dax? Well, for me Les Landes are just calm and lovely... and my source for cheap pinewood... hahahaha
Yes, always pretty girls on the beach, surfing, feria ( almost like in Spain), Pyrennees mountains and Basque country not too far. And good cookery, we are in a rural place.
I always tell:
This we can do today ,we also can do it tomorrow.
Our way of life.
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Old October 12th, 2013, 01:02 AM   #2605
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Damn boring US Interstates

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Old October 12th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #2606
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[QUOTE=verreme;107871869]Damn boring US Interstates

Where is it ?
I don't think it's near where I live because missing pineforest .
Or corn !
But it looks like the highway N10 was here 15-20 years ago without guardrails, trees in the middle, and with crossroads.
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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #2607
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My local newspaper wrote that this highway is already in the red.
The traffic is very low and always will be low.
Our local politicians decided to built this highway instead to widen the road in 2x2.
Too bad for us. We will have to pay for both tomorrow.
I drove once all the way of this A65 and the price for a van is incredibily high.
I was sick !
An article (in french) published today in the local newspaper about what I said of the A65 in the south west.

http://www.sudouest.fr/2013/10/14/l-...98419-2932.php
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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #2608
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It's N568 west of Martigues. Probably the longest straight of France. And also the flattest. And the one with the widest median. Very uncommon in Europe, looks totally American.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #2609
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By Brisavoine today:

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The motorway/freeway replacing the section of the old N88 road between La Croix de Mille and Taunus, in south-western France, was opened to traffic yesterday. This is another milestone in the long march towards the completion of the motorway/freeway that will someday link Toulouse and Lyon, the 2nd and 4th largest cities of France, through the difficult terrain of the Massif Central. [img]http://i40.************/2wgue60.gif[/img]

The French government is unfortunately dithering on whether or not to build the most difficult part of the route, which lies beyond the section opened yesterday. Something as big as the Millau Viaduct would need to be built to cross the huge river canyons in that region, which means billions of €€€.



En attendant the stunning central sections of that motorway that will someday hopefully be built, here are pictures of the section opened yesterday, by Gilles Auriol from Forum Sara.

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Old October 15th, 2013, 10:56 PM   #2610
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Will it be part of the A68? Or an upgraded N88 expressway/route pour automobiles?
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Old October 15th, 2013, 11:33 PM   #2611
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It's the continuation of the RN88.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:06 AM   #2612
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The most difficult part of the N88 which requires a viaduct above the Viaur river is already built since the 90 ies. It's the Tanus bridge.
The problem is the northern part of the bypass of Albi through the city.
Up to the highway A75, the ground is hilly but not very difficult to build.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:12 AM   #2613
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And which is the project for avoiding Le-Puy? I've got some traffic jams crossing Le-Puy-en-Velay but I don't remember any working area for building a Rocade for the city.

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It's the continuation of the RN88.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #2614
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It's N568 west of Martigues. Probably the longest straight of France. And also the flattest. And the one with the widest median. Very uncommon in Europe, looks totally American.
Yes, I know this road but this stretch is 20 km long maybe.
When you drive through the "Meseta", in central Spain, on the road to Granada or Albacete, it's not very funny also.
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Old October 16th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #2615
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And which is the project for avoiding Le-Puy? I've got some traffic jams crossing Le-Puy-en-Velay but I don't remember any working area for building a Rocade for the city.


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Yes, the famous traffic-jam in le Puy.
A small city with a lot of traffic lights.
Sometimes, 30 minutes to cross the city.
The building of the bypass has began but when I read the situation about this bypass on a french forum, there are difficulties with the ground.
I cannot see the evolution when I am on the road. So, I don't know if they stopped the construction or not.
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Old October 20th, 2013, 07:16 PM   #2616
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Will it be part of the A68? Or an upgraded N88 expressway/route pour automobiles?
Should be part of A68 between Toulouse and A75 (Severac le Chateau)
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Old October 27th, 2013, 02:30 PM   #2617
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A video I've made a few weeks ago from A35/A4 trough Strasbourg:
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Old October 27th, 2013, 10:59 PM   #2618
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Any plans of a E74 tunnel between Cuneo (Turin) and Nice?

When you look at a map, you can't help but wonder if there has ever been a plan of building a tunnel under the Alpes-Maritimes connecting the Riviera and to north Italian plains.
A tunnel under the Monte Argentera between Nice and Cuneo would make a fast connection between Nice/Riviera/Marsielle and Turin and the rest of northern Italy.
The E74 goes along that route but up in the mountains and isn't that fast.
All heavy traffic today needs to follow the ligurian coast before turing north.

A tunnel between these two could also include a railway.

Is there or has there anytime been plans on something like this?

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Looking at it a little closer I'm thinking the road could begin at the Nice Airport, follow the A8 "La Provencale" for a bit, follow the river Var valley and then become a tunnel until it reaches Borgo San Dalmazzo and Cuneo and connect to the A33.
The tunnel should be about 50 kilometers.
Perhaps a little to long. Maybe the road can go up the mountains a bit before being a tunnel? Or head more east and get out at Limone Piemonte? THat would put the tunnel at 28 kilometers.
I'm just speculating here.

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Old October 27th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #2619
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Yes: https://www.google.ch/search?client=...+tunnel&rls=it

But it is unlikely it will be built.
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Old October 28th, 2013, 12:22 AM   #2620
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Yes: https://www.google.ch/search?client=...+tunnel&rls=it

But it is unlikely it will be built.
Interesting! But there seems to be very little information about it. Not even a map showing it's stretch.
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