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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:06 PM   #361
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It's not the largest motorway in Greater Paris though. The largest undivided motorway is the A4 just as it leaves central Paris.



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Of course the A6 that leaves central Paris towards the southern suburbs is even larger, but it is divided. Apparently the technocrats ruling this country thought French drivers were too dumb to handle a 12-lane motorway, so they divided it into smaller bits. That's 'autoroute for dummies' for you. Lol.







Still pretty impressive at night, even divided as it is.

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Of course railway lines entering Paris are impressive too.

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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:15 PM   #362
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Divided motorways are better when there are more than 2x5 lanes. Capacity hardly increases if you keep adding lanes above 10. In the US, most wide freeways also have collector lanes if there are over 5 lanes per direction.

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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #363
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nice pics
do you have some pics of the "boulevard de peripherique" too?
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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:21 PM   #364
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A4 Autoroute its huge indeed
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Old August 30th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #365
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Divided motorways are better when there are more than 2x5 lanes. Capacity hardly increases if you keep adding lanes above 10. In the US, most wide freeways also have collector lanes if there are over 5 lanes per direction.
The way the A6 is organized is nightmarish, and I'm not sure it's more efficient that if it was undivided. The worst thing is if you drive southbound on the A6, when you reach the A86, it is not possible to take the A86 westbound, there is no lane going from A6 southbound to A86 westbound (i.e. from central Paris to Versailles). How dumb is that?!!

And from an aesthetical point of way, I find these unkept patches of land separating the various lanes absolutely ugly. It's quite inferior to the neat-looking undivided US freeways.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 09:30 PM   #366
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take a look at the webcam now:
http://www.cofiroute.fr/icons/cofiroute/A1002401.jpg

when i saw the image one hou before i thought the cars will jam trough the night
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Old September 1st, 2008, 01:03 AM   #367
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I forgot that website with LOADS of pics of French motorways. I'm interested in A4 through Reims. I remember driving under a building, or is that somewhere else on the A4? Anyone remembers that site?
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Old September 1st, 2008, 01:15 AM   #369
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Merci! franceautoroutes.fr, now that's a misterious name. Unfortunately there's nothing of A4 in Reims, does anyone have these photos?
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I have pics from Reims to Paris, but not inside Reims.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 09:20 PM   #371
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I'm interested in A4 through Reims. I remember driving under a building, or is that somewhere else on the A4?
I don't remember any stretch of the A4 where you could have driven under a building.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 10:37 PM   #372
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Well, we were driving to Paris and I wasn't dreaming.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 11:18 PM   #373
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Verso, look at my hand. Can you tell me how many fingers I have?
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I see 5.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 01:24 AM   #375
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Are there plans for extending Paris Outer Ring, N104 (A104?) in future ?
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 11:49 AM   #376
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I found the N104 a sucky road. I drove it for the first time 2 weeks ago, and it has only 2x2 lanes and you have to turn off all the time in order to continue on the N104 (TOTSO's).
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Myabe it will be upgraded somewhen... It's a shame really such big city don't have a proper outer ring road. London, Berlin, Rome, Moscow have them
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 05:18 PM   #378
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The Francilienne should be extended on 22 kms in the North West, between Mery-sur-Oise and Orgeval (connection with A13):



Works are due to start in 2011 and end (at best) in 2015.

Then it probably won't be extended any further. White arrows on the map show what will miss to make a complete loop.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 05:22 PM   #379
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I would stick with 35 km option, it might be more expensive but it will give more space for traffic
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 05:25 PM   #380
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Yeah Paris is already a city with a lot of loose-ends freeways. If they will be integrated and connected properly, it can reduce some of the traffic jams.
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