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Old March 16th, 2009, 08:42 PM   #581
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I can tell you that these tolls are completely NORMAL...
2 barriers each and no booth (and they are not assymetric). Sorry but I can't find any closed picture of this very, very strange place...
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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #582
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Next time I will tell you how my cousin cheats Autoroutes du Sud de la France and manages to pay 0 euros from Toulouse to Montpellier. There's a trick.
How your cousin managed that?
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Old March 16th, 2009, 09:19 PM   #583
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yep, I would like to know it me too !
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:28 AM   #584
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I can tell you that these tolls are completely NORMAL...
2 barriers each and no booth (and they are not assymetric). Sorry but I can't find any closed picture of this very, very strange place...
but it is so intriguing place to all of us
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Old March 17th, 2009, 12:53 AM   #585
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It's totally normal to me, ramps are visible.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 06:02 PM   #586
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A countryside road in the Dauphiné, near Gap:

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Old March 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM   #587
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I'm considering a scenic route from Martigny (CH) to Nice. However, it includes high altitude mountain passes. Does anybody know the chances of the Iseran, Galibier and Bonette passes still being closed in mid-June?
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Old March 29th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #588
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I'm considering a scenic route from Martigny (CH) to Nice. However, it includes high altitude mountain passes. Does anybody know the chances of the Iseran, Galibier and Bonette passes still being closed in mid-June?
we expect great pictures from there, Chris
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Old March 31st, 2009, 08:15 PM   #589
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Country-side roads (in France) are beautiful
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Old April 1st, 2009, 07:37 PM   #590
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Does anybody know the chances of the Iseran, Galibier and Bonette passes still being closed in mid-June?
Low.
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Old April 13th, 2009, 12:25 AM   #591
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I already posted some pics in the belgian forum from my trip home from Paris, but these pictures I'll post now were taken some hours/minutes earlier so don't be confused - and btw: I played with some color functions of my camera, hope it won't disturb too much...



first some pics of A4/E50 Paris-Reims:








































You see the new HSL at the left






The motorway near Reims (here interchange E17/E50 southwest of Reims) was jammed due to works on bridges - i think I've read something about widening it



After Reims, we took the E46 to Charleville-Mezieres which is an expressway (in Germany it would probably be a Gelbe Autobahn) till Rethel, but then a motorway upto Sedan.

still an expressway (N51) before Rethel - in this stretch without shoulders



Exit to Rethel - shoulders again



then after Rethel it's a motorway (A34)







Near Charleville-M. there's a motorway/expressway interchange where A34 ends, we took A203 to Sedan



End of motorway near Sedan, then it leads into N43



some kilometres east of Sedan there's an expressway interchange and we went further direction Liège northbound (N58), which leads into belgian N89 at the border - pictures of it here:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=410
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When restoration of A25 will finish ? There were long jams because of it
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Old April 20th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #593
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Could somebody help?

I, when seeing this route, A51, think that there is something wrong, like if the two part of the A51 are going to different points instead of going to a union point. But i suppose there must be a plan to finish this route in a middle point. Could somebody say what is the plan route?, following the N85 or following the E712?

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Old April 22nd, 2009, 08:43 AM   #594
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Wikisara suggests that both options are still open, even though there seems to be a preference for the N85 option. I agree though that this route could never connect to the Southern terminus of the Northern part of the route. Likewise, the N85 option could never connect the Northern terminus of the Southern part of the route. Since completion of the route has always been a rather remote scenario, I guess the French have preferred to just extend both parts of the A51 autonomously. On the Southern end, an extension to Gap was useful; on the Northern end, an extension to the Col de la Croix Haute was useful.

In the unlikely event that the route would ever be completed (it's still not fully excluded), there would probably have to be a renumbering somewhere along the current A51.
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Could somebody say what is the plan route?, following the N85 or following the E712?

check the terrain and you will get the answer...
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 08:48 PM   #596
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Wikisara suggests that both options are still open, even though there seems to be a preference for the N85 option. I agree though that this route could never connect to the Southern terminus of the Northern part of the route. Likewise, the N85 option could never connect the Northern terminus of the Southern part of the route. Since completion of the route has always been a rather remote scenario, I guess the French have preferred to just extend both parts of the A51 autonomously. On the Southern end, an extension to Gap was useful; on the Northern end, an extension to the Col de la Croix Haute was useful.

In the unlikely event that the route would ever be completed (it's still not fully excluded), there would probably have to be a renumbering somewhere along the current A51.
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check the terrain and you will get the answer...
following the river Drac?
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Old April 22nd, 2009, 09:02 PM   #597
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Could somebody help?

I, when seeing this route, A51, think that there is something wrong, like if the two part of the A51 are going to different points instead of going to a union point. But i suppose there must be a plan to finish this route in a middle point. Could somebody say what is the plan route?, following the N85 or following the E712?
On this site you will find some plans, but I don't know, if these are official plans.
Flash map: http://autoroutea51.free.fr/page3.ph...oute_index.htm
project maps: http://autoroutea51.free.fr/page3.ph...ge2=cartes.htm

If this will be build, the "Viaduct de l'Ebron" will be huge - hight > 200m
-> http://autoroutea51.free.fr/carte/pl...ier-Lavars.jpg
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Old April 25th, 2009, 12:23 PM   #598
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The road is nice, clean... btw i liked the effects from your @cameraconvalescence
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I would stick with E712 rather than N85... Route Napoleon (whatoever the spelling is) is very dangerous. Polish coach crashed there 2 years ago and many people died
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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:56 PM   #600
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Paris in a nutshell

Taken today off motorway A6b south of Paris:

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