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Old August 27th, 2009, 06:42 PM   #701
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Even France has started with environmental crap as a excuse for low speed limits?
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Old August 27th, 2009, 07:57 PM   #702
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A33 Nancy - Dombasle-sur-Meurthe (A330-N333)
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end (unless you want pics of dual carriageway N59). I don't know whether this is consistent with the thread title.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:08 PM   #703
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That motorway, few parts of it are recently restored or are completely new? I am talking about the first photo of this motorway...
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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM   #704
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Even France has started with environmental crap as a excuse for low speed limits?
Yeah, that global warming crap. Symbolic politics, nothing else. They want to force the entire Dutch population to energy saving lights to save 0.3% op the annual CO2 emissions. Because we all know CO2 causes global warming

It's funny how all those environmentalists embracing computer models about the human induced global warming, but are always critizing traffic models. Models are dependent on assumptions and input.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:13 PM   #705
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end (unless you want pics of dual carriageway N59). I don't know whether this is consistent with the thread title.
Sure, no problem.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:40 PM   #706
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You gotta love that cathedral in Thionville almost on the shoulder.
Church. A cathedral hosts a Bishop.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #707
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Old August 27th, 2009, 10:29 PM   #708
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Before N59, a few pics from N333, as an extension of A33.

N333 Lunéville (8) - N59 (9)
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to be continued...
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Old August 27th, 2009, 10:41 PM   #709
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Rather average road
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Old August 27th, 2009, 10:43 PM   #710
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French urban areas are lined with these kind of expressways... Something that's nearly obsolete in the Netherlands. I like them.
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Old August 27th, 2009, 11:02 PM   #711
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And now N59.
N59 Moncel-lès-Lunéville - Betaigne
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Over next 15 km the road is single carriageway, so it's skipped (although I have photos). Next stretch is signed as expressway.

N59 Baccarat -nord - St Dié-sud
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What happened? Now, from nearest to furthest town. Previously was opposite. Could it be, another department, other rules?








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Old August 28th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #712
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From the recent photos it seems that few km of this motorway arec completely new.
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Old August 28th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #713
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First photo was taken ~400 metres behind the border buildings. According to Google Maps, a picture was made in Luxembourg. When entering lane ends, it starts France. For the rest, you can see color change of the surface. This should be the true border.
You also crossed the Germanic-Romance linguistic border probably without noticing it.

Here you are in the last mile of the Germanic-speaking area (Luxembourgish precisely). Thionville is known as Diddenuewen in Luxembourgish.


Here it's your last picture in the Germanic-speaking area:


Here it's almost exactly where the linguistic border is located. Note that this linguistic border is now essentially an historical border given that people north of that border (in and around Thionville) speak French (only a few people still speak the Luxembourgish dialect):


Here you are in Romance-speaking territory (historically the Romance Lorraine dialect, but now French of course):


Today the real Germanic-Romance linguistic border is the France-Luxembourg state border, even though most people in Luxembourg can also speak French.
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Old August 28th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #714
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Thanks for the interesting .
I noticed that in Luxembourg mostly French, not least of Luxembourgish, and relatively not much German.
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Yes, in Luxembourg all signage is in French. French is the official written language in Luxembourg. But people still speak Luxemburgish at home, contrary to the Thionville area in France.
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Old August 29th, 2009, 06:15 PM   #717
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shouldn't it be tomato-tomatho?
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Strasbourg might get new bypass in future

Anyway, why French didn't change German names in Alzace, is there strong german community ?
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Anyway, why French didn't change German names in Alzace, is there strong german community ?
I'm not sure what you mean by that. In Alsace some of the placenames are in French (e.g. La Petite-Pierre), some other are in Alsatian (e.g. Hunawihr), some other in German (e.g. Mittelhausbergen), some other in a French rendering of German (e.g. Strasbourg), and finally some other are in a French rendering of Alsatian (e.g. Mulhouse). Oh, there are also the weird cases of part French-part German placenames (e.g. Magstatt-le-Haut), part French-part Alsatian placenames (e.g. Morschwiller-le-Bas), and part-German/part-Alsatian placenames (e.g. Niedermorschwihr). Clear enough?

PS: Note that Niedermorschwihr and Morschwiller-le-Bas are two absolutely distinct villages located 55 km from each other.
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Old August 30th, 2009, 01:28 PM   #720
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That section should be very close to Monaco, from the terrain there...
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