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Old September 22nd, 2009, 09:59 PM   #721
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 10:40 PM   #722
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this A8 traveled quite far from Bordeaux
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 08:40 AM   #723
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I've seen some of those stretches of autoroute before. Are they in or near Nice?
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 03:13 PM   #724
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Is there any plan of what final French network will look like ?
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 06:40 PM   #725
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 08:03 PM   #726
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Very nice photos (tour); how far is the distance in km from Senlis to Compiègne?
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Old September 24th, 2009, 02:11 PM   #727
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Old October 8th, 2009, 12:20 PM   #728
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Today, the Lorraine "departement" (county), starts experimenting a motorway speed limit cut from 130kph to 110kph (80mph to 68mph). If the trial is successful, this speed limit will be slowly extended to the whole nation.

I couldn't find anything in English yet, beside this older article:
http://www.connexionfrance.com/news_...es.php?id=1104

One good point : this reduces pollutant emissions, that start skyrocketing past 110kph.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 03:04 PM   #729
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If France is so concerned about the environment, why not first remove all those useless toll booths that create artificial traffic jams and a lot headaches.

In Italy you travel from Trieste to Ventimiglia and stop only twice (once for ticket and once for paying), but in France it's a real mess.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 03:36 PM   #730
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If France is so concerned about the environment, why not first remove all those useless toll booths that create artificial traffic jams and a lot headaches.

In Italy you travel from Trieste to Ventimiglia and stop only twice (once for ticket and once for paying), but in France it's a real mess.
Agreed, but how does that work in Italy? I imagine this requires some sort of monopoly, even though there could be an internal revenue distribution system. Also, in Italy, the tollways don't serve the centers of cities as they do in France. But a completely closed system is of course preferable.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #731
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Agreed, but how does that work in Italy? I imagine this requires some sort of monopoly, even though there could be an internal revenue distribution system.
That is. Various motorway companies divide paid toll.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 07:06 PM   #732
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National road n°131 - Senlis -> Compiègne ...
Très bien, Ennis!
Very beautiful scenery you've go there and nice open roads with not a lot of traffic. Must have been a very pleasant drive.

What struck me most was that so many cars were French-make.
Is that the norm?


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Old October 8th, 2009, 07:31 PM   #733
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Très bien, Ennis!
Very beautiful scenery you've go there and nice open roads with not a lot of traffic. Must have been a very pleasant drive.
Many Route Nationales in France are like that. I love driving on them, I went to Spain last year, using mostly RN's, and former RN's (now RD). You really see a lot more of the landscape in the Dordogne using the old RN20 instead of A20, for instance.

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Yeah, you mostly see French cars in France. But you also see a lot of German cars in Germany and Italian cars in Italy. Domestic brands always perform well in their own country, it seems. Most interesting are countries without an own brand, like in the Netherlands or Denmark. The car fleet tends to be more diverse there.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 07:45 PM   #734
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About half of the cars sold in France are French (in 2008: 52% of all the cars sold in France; in 2007: 52%; in 2006: 54%).

The foreign brands most sold in France are Volkswagen and Ford.

In 2008 the two models most sold in France were the Peugeot 207 and the Renault Clio III. The two foreign models most sold were the Volkswagen Polo and the Ford Fiesta (in a tie with Opel Corsa).
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http://asw.roadpics.net/pic/284/index13.html

A 314 picture set of various roads in northern France (non motorways). Mostly the former N43, Rocroi - Cambrai.
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Old October 9th, 2009, 12:19 AM   #736
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n Italy you travel from Trieste to Ventimiglia and stop only twice (once for ticket and once for paying), but in France it's a real mess.
Try driving from Milano via Torino to Tunnel de Frejus at the Frensh border. You will have to stop a lot of times, around Torino alone it's 3 toll booths.
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In Italy you travel from Trieste to Ventimiglia and stop only twice (once for ticket and once for paying), but in France it's a real mess.
you must pay at Cremona and take new ticket at Piacenza
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Old October 9th, 2009, 04:37 PM   #738
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you must pay at Cremona and take new ticket at Piacenza
Not anymore! I was actually surprised they removed the barriers (sometime after 2007, that's when I was there last time).
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oh, that's a surprise!
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Old October 9th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #740
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Today, the Lorraine "departement" (county), starts experimenting a motorway speed limit cut from 130kph to 110kph (80mph to 68mph). If the trial is successful, this speed limit will be slowly extended to the whole nation.
That's absolutly stupid: driving to 130 kph is a right.

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If France is so concerned about the environment, why not first remove all those useless toll booths that create artificial traffic jams and a lot headaches.
There are plans to remove them thanks to eletronic payement.

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About half of the cars sold in France are French (in 2008: 52% of all the cars sold in France; in 2007: 52%; in 2006: 54%).
It depends whish cars are considered french. Is a Renault Clio assembled in Slovenia more French than a Toyota Prius built in Valenciennes or a Smart built in Lorraine ? Are Nissan and Dacia French too ? Not easy to answer.
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