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Old January 8th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #1761
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My car is speed limited to 250 km/h. Fortunately, the limiter kicks in gently.
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Old January 9th, 2012, 10:50 PM   #1762
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Returning back from six months in Germany, the hardest for me is to stick to 90 km/h instead of 100 km/h on straight country roads. For motorways no problem, my car is too old to allow safe 130+ speeds. Overall speed limits do make more sense in Germany, but tbh I find Netherlands or the UK worse than France in this domain. The most annoying things to me are the roundabouts and speed bumps you find everywhere in this country "to break the speed".
Dunno your car Grobin but when driving a "normal car" I always put the speed limiter on in France. Heck, I even use the cruise control, something I wouldn't dare doing in Germany. With some music or good company the journey isn't really boring.
Indeed, with good company, journeys here (unless they are of less than 300km) are nice. But if you drive alone on French motorways, it is always horrible ! Even with good music ! & I agree with you: the Netherlands are even worse. The U.K. are O.K. as long as you take in account the tolerance on motorways

If I drive my old, almost 16-year-old Saab 9000, it is even more horrible on motorways because it is very quiet and almost too comfortable, so you can easily get asleep at 130 km/h. & no cruise control !
It is not the case with my almost 8-year-old Zafira OPC, the rpm's of which are higher than the Saab on 5th gear. & I've got a cruise control. France, the Netherlands & Slovakia are the only countries in which I used it. & just because I don't want to break up the tolerance over the speed limit. However, I'm not a big fan of that. I prefer driving in Germany for instance, which I already said

In the French cities, towns & villages, driving is smoother with the Saab, with which you can hardly feel any potholes or humps. With the Zafira OPC, I have to slow down to less than 10km/h, because its shock-absorbers are very hard Very risky to fall into a pothole with the rims the OPC-versions have ...

Both cars are a pleasure to drive on French secondary roads (routes de campagne) Even during heavy rain !

P.S.: a good car for the Paris region is a 3-cylinder Chevrolet Matiz 54bhp, very noisy from 100 km/h on (& the 3-cylinder sound is similar to a 6-cylinder one ). & very small to park ! I drove one about 3 months ago, from my garage

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My car is speed limited to 250 km/h. Fortunately, the limiter kicks in gently.
Which German car is that ?
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"Richtgeschwindigkeit" should be the default system in all EU motorways & expressways & lane indiscipline should be harshly fought! Down with radars on motorways!
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Old January 9th, 2012, 11:09 PM   #1763
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Old January 14th, 2012, 02:38 PM   #1764
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A nice Youtube-Channel with Roadmovies (motorcycle) of 974

http://www.youtube.com/user/bklteam

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Old January 15th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #1765
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Does anyone know when the new N7 is due to open between Moulins and Varennes-sur-Allier?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:31 PM   #1766
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Another great channel from Reunion http://www.youtube.com/user/974runmike

Route des Tamarains

with usual french speed control at 2:10 (Mesta radar installed in Opel Astra or Ford Mondeo)
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Old January 15th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #1767
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A4 direction Strossburi


BTW: Nouveautes from the GCO-Projekt: http://www.dna.fr/edition-de-strasbo...oncede-a-vinci
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Old January 19th, 2012, 03:35 AM   #1768
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The END of France and of its road network (as of June 2011).

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Old January 19th, 2012, 04:53 AM   #1769
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A4 direction Strossburi
interesting you've written in Alsatian. why?
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Old January 19th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #1770
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Why ? You prefer Straßburg ?

P.S.: I must do a research whether there are still a lot of people speaking Alsatian ... I doubt of it.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 01:15 AM   #1771
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I can't say I know that region deeply but every time I was there there I heard at least some people conversing in Alsatian. It's certainly not a dead language.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 10:50 AM   #1772
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France 3 has a daily 5-minute tv show in Alsatian (here). Some of the locals that get interviewed speak the language, others prefer to be interviewed in French. I do think, however, that many more people have passive knowledge. With a basic knowledge of French and a good understanding of German, I for myself can follow it fairly well.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 10:44 PM   #1773
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South Tirol saved his language much better although the national reprisals where much higher. Italian is out of Bozen majority a foreign language. In Alsace there only a few of the older generation who not speak any french.
The younger generation has no big knowledge and therefore problems on the labor market between Karlsruhe and Basel.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 01:01 AM   #1774
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I must do a research whether there are still a lot of people speaking Alsatian ... I doubt of it.
According to a study made in 2002, there are approx. 39% (500,000) of the population in Alsace who can speak Alsatian + 45,000 in France outside Alsace (which makes the Alsatian the second regional language in France after the Corsican language which is spoken by approx. 45% of the people in Corsica)

Here are, except French, the spoken languages in Alsace (regional ones in bold)



And here is the intergenerational transmission percentage of the French language vs the Alsatian language based on year of birth (from 1915 to 1975)


Orange: Alsatian without French
Red: Alsatian usually + French
Dark Green: French + Alsatian occasionally
Light Green: French without Alsatian.

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Old January 22nd, 2012, 03:22 AM   #1775
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!!! So many German speakers ? Maybe a lot of Germans living in Eastern France & working on the German side ?

Anyway, it's nice to see Alsatian isn't dead !
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 03:36 AM   #1776
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Anyway, it's nice to see Alsatian isn't dead !
Before you get too excited, consider than Alsatian is moribund. By about 2050 or 2060, Alsatian will be dead.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 07:44 AM   #1777
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On the topic of speed enforcement, are there places regions or departments in France where enforcement is rare?
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 01:32 PM   #1778
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!!! So many German speakers ? Maybe a lot of Germans living in Eastern France & working on the German side ?

Anyway, it's nice to see Alsatian isn't dead !
I think a lot of Alsatians can speak standard German
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 01:44 PM   #1779
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Before you get too excited, consider than Alsatian is moribund. By about 2050 or 2060, Alsatian will be dead.
Yes & no. Because with regionalisms being reborn in Europe, I'm not sure it will be extinct so fast ...
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Yeah, you could've said the same about Welsh
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