[F] Motorways in France • Autoroutes de France - Page 90

ptscout · January 28th, 2012, 07:32 AM

Once again, Strossburi direction Vosges (par Col)

***Coccodrillo*** · February 9th, 2012, 05:16 PM

The emergncy tunnel of the Fréjus tunnel will quite certainly be opened to traffic. I suppose it will have a single lane, as the TBM that is boring it is around 9 m in diametre, not enough for a two lane tunnel with a standard width carriageway.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...2&postcount=51

***Minato ku*** · February 19th, 2012, 06:58 PM

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RN1 (la Possession - Saint Paul)

mcarling · February 20th, 2012, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coccodrillo

The emergncy tunnel of the Fréjus tunnel will quite certainly be opened to traffic. I suppose it will have a single lane, as the TBM that is boring it is around 9 m in diametre, not enough for a two lane tunnel with a standard width carriageway.

A 9 m bore is sufficient for a two lane tunnel.

***Coccodrillo*** · February 20th, 2012, 10:22 AM

Apparently it is smaller than I thought: http://www.sftrf.fr/doc/general/GALE...20galerie1.pdf

mcarling · February 20th, 2012, 10:39 AM

I don't have enough resolution to read the measurements on the blueprint but, I agree, it looks a lot smaller than 9 meters. Maybe about 6 or 7 meters.

Fargo Wolf · February 20th, 2012, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coccodrillo

The emergncy tunnel of the Fréjus tunnel will quite certainly be opened to traffic. I suppose it will have a single lane, as the TBM that is boring it is around 9 m in diametre, not enough for a two lane tunnel with a standard width carriageway.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...2&postcount=51

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarling

A 9 m bore is sufficient for a two lane tunnel.

That depends. If the inside diameter is 9m, then yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcarling

I don't have enough resolution to read the measurements on the blueprint but, I agree, it looks a lot smaller than 9 meters. Maybe about 6 or 7 meters.

So if it is opened to traffic, then it would only be a single lane 4m wide, with two small 1m shoulders. However, if it was 7m wide, then there could be two 3.5m lanes, but no shoulders.

***ChrisZwolle*** · February 20th, 2012, 10:21 PM

You need to have a 3.5 m lane width at 4 meters height too. So the bore of a tunnel is always much wider than the road width. To support two 3.5 m wide lanes, you need a bore diameter of at least 9 meters.

***Coccodrillo*** · February 20th, 2012, 10:33 PM

One of the PDF available on SFTRF's website says that the interior diameter is 8 m, so the TBM diameter should be around 8.8 m.

Around 1.8 out of 6.5 km of the French side of the service tunnel have been bored until now. Works on the Italian side should start this year.

mcarling · February 21st, 2012, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargo Wolf

So if it is opened to traffic, then it would only be a single lane 4m wide, with two small 1m shoulders. However, if it was 7m wide, then there could be two 3.5m lanes, but no shoulders.

Since the walls are curved, that would only work for zero-height vehicles.

IpvNet · April 20th, 2012, 08:50 PM

Epinal- Basel Route.
I have few options but would like to chose the best one: it'll be overnight drive so need to get to Basel fast

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Also: i cannot find any tolls between Luxembourg-Epinal, or there are none?

IpvNet · April 20th, 2012, 08:52 PM

or Nancy - Selestat- Basel ?

cougar1989 · April 20th, 2012, 11:27 PM

The only one thing I can say is that the A31.fr from Border L/F to Toul near Nancy is toll free.

IpvNet · April 21st, 2012, 12:23 AM

Thanks a lot

Nima-Farid · May 15th, 2012, 08:02 AM

France St Pierre et Miqueleon

hofburg · May 30th, 2012, 10:54 PM

Vinci autoroutes might be just the best in Europe. expensive, but very well maintained, with awesome rest areas, and great services - like this app: (and no, I'm not working for them)

Nima-Farid · May 31st, 2012, 02:05 AM

trés bien, j'aime cette application mais l'autoroute doit être trop chère.
une question, how strictly are the speed limits enforced there in France?

Road_UK · May 31st, 2012, 12:00 PM

Yes, I believe the new Vinci network is a merger with Corfiroute and ASF (Autoroutes du sud de la France).

verreme · May 31st, 2012, 03:12 PM

Vinci also runs many underground car parks in France.

hofburg · May 31st, 2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nima-Farid

une question, how strictly are the speed limits enforced there in France?

normally, as in most eu countries.

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February 20th, 2012, 10:33 PM	#1789
*Coccodrillo* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 6,037 Likes (Received): 43	One of the PDF available on SFTRF's website says that the interior diameter is 8 m, so the TBM diameter should be around 8.8 m. Around 1.8 out of 6.5 km of the French side of the service tunnel have been bored until now. Works on the Italian side should start this year. __________________ You are not blocked in the traffic. You are the traffic.

January 28th, 2012, 07:32 AM	#1781
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February 20th, 2012, 10:39 AM	#1786
mcarling Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,261 Likes (Received): 24	I don't have enough resolution to read the measurements on the blueprint but, I agree, it looks a lot smaller than 9 meters. Maybe about 6 or 7 meters.

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IpvNet Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: London, Amsterdam Posts: 87 Likes (Received): 1	Epinal- Basel Route. I have few options but would like to chose the best one: it'll be overnight drive so need to get to Basel fast . Also: i cannot find any tolls between Luxembourg-Epinal, or there are none?

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