POLAND - Stadium and Arena Development News

[Simon-maly]

[Simon-maly]

[skaP187]

The stadium lay out looks a little bit like the Fc Groningen stadium in Holland (Euroborg) only this one is bigger. (Euroborg has a 20 000 cap, but is a fantastic stadium mop)


The simularity I ment is in the 'hooked' corners

[veronika]

The most modern and striking stadia in Eastern Europe will be firstly Shakhtar Donetsk in 2008 then Zenit ST Petersburg in 09. Both are funded both are going ahead no matter what off/on field politics bidding etc take place. As you know Donetsk is well underway and is starting to take shape.
Its a shame as Poland deserves a stadium of the sriking nature and quality of the above two but looking at that design its not the case, sorry.

[decapitated]

This is the final project of Legia's new stadium.









Hanna Gronkiewicz-Walz, the President of Warsaw

[skaP187]

looking good, so when do we start?!

[decapitated]

If everthing goes as planned already in fall And the conctruction works should be finished in fall, 2009. Total costs are estimated at 250 million zł (about 62,5 million Euro). The project is by JSK Architekten. 4 star UEFA standard, which means that the new stadium can host the UEFA Cup final.

[Mo Rush]

beautiful stadium..such a bargain for 63 million Euros.

[matherto]

the original reminded me a lot of LTU Arena, and the new one is like the MSV-Arena

very nice stadium

[michał_]

There already are some threads on stadiums emerging in specific countries, so I decided to launch one that would show the situation in Poland.

Now- as we all know Poland hasn't got even one world-class stadium, but the business got going recently. Municipal stadium in Kielce (15,5k) was actually the first reasonably big stadium opened in a decade (2006), before it it was their local rivals' stadium in Ostrowiec Swietokrzyski (7,1k). And the youngest grounds after these two are from the communist era if I recall well...

But now it is changing- not as fast as we would all wish, but it is surely going the right way, especially with the Euro 2012 stadiums. So now I will start with presentations of the stadiums (I'm placing smaller pics so that they don't upload for ages when you open the thread- bigger ones should appear later on).



IN CONSTRUCTION:

1. Municipal Stadium (Stadion Lecha), Poznan. - 46,5k (completely rebuilding in the same spot that the current stadium is, one stand after another)
timeline: 2004-2010
cost: 152mln zł (app. 40mln €), but it will surely rise. In my opinion at least double.
3 group games of Euro 2012 planned.


there is also a chance of a retractable roof:

plus, recently a new vision was shown, the stadium with 5k extra to go for UEFA 5 star ranking, change bowl shape- my opinion, best so far:


and here for current status:

(two new stands existing, the ones along goals will be demolished- starting in summer/autumn)


2. Stadion Wisly, Krakow. 32-34,5k (just as in Poznan the stadium is completely rebuilt on the same site)
timeline: 2004-2010 (for Euro 2012)
cost: some 150mln zl estimated, but should rise up to 250.

the vision (100% it will change -for the 4th time- but the final looks will be known in some 6 months, this is just to give you a clue, but propably all stands will be single-tiered):


So far two stands before the goals are ready:
and another one identical to this, just without the White Star symbol

3. Stadion Zawiszy, Bydgoszcz. - 20,2k (mostly athletic use- stands remodelled and new buildings to be raised)
timeline: 2006-? (I can't recall)
cost: some 42mln zl (10mln €)



currently:


4. Stadion Miejski, Ostrow Wlkp. -app.20k (speedway-use, stand by stand construction)
timeline: ???
cost: ???



building construction:




5. Stadion Polonii, Warsaw. - 16k (main stand and it's opposite to be refurbished, rest to be built)
timeline: 2007-2011
cost: 180mln zl (some 45mln €), but the cost and timeline are set for both the stadium and the sport complex around it.



currently the main stand is being covered, but as for the rest- sufficent funding has not yet been found and chances are relatively low.


PROPOSED:

National Stadium, Warsaw. - 60-70k (to be built in the spot of today's marketplace, once our national stadium) (for Euro 2012)
timeline: 2008-2010
cost: around 500mln zl (stadium alone, twice the amount with the planned complex)



this vision WILL NOT be constructed, a new competition has been announced, we should know the final design in Autumn.

Stadion Slaski (Silesian Stadium), Chorzow. - app.50k (current bowl may be remodelled, surely a roof will be added)
timeline: ? (for Euro 2012)
cost: app. 150mln zl (40mln €)



this vision MIGHT NOT be constructed, a new company is working on something different now, should be cheaper.

3. Baltic Arena, Gdansk. - 44k (brand new venue)
timeline: 2008-2010 (for Euro2012)
cost: up to 1bln zl (250mln €)



4. Stadion Miejski, Wroclaw. - some 44k (brand new)
timeline: 2008-2010 (for Euro 2012)
cost: app. 400mln zl (100mln €)



(what you see is not the design, but an early view of how it should be located, design and construction competition has just started)

5. Stadion Miejski, Rzeszow. - 20-35k (brand new)
timeline: ?
costs: ?
the stadium was proposed and is still being discussed, but the information formerly given is out of date now.




6. Stadion Legii, Warsaw. - 32k (to be built in the place of current stadium, with the historical main stand building facade incorporated)
timeline: 2007-2009
cost: some 360mln zl (90mln €)



7. Stadion Hetmana, Bialystok. - 22k (brand new)
timeline: 2008-2010/11
cost: 240mln zl (60mln €)



8. Stadion Gornika, Zabrze. 15-25k
This one is a newly announced proposition since the Allianz Group started their sponsorship deal with Gornik club. They want to build it in cooperation with the municipal authorities.

9. Stadion GOS, Lubin - 20k
The design will be known in July (5th) or, if the club doesn't reach agreement with the designers, we'll have to wait for another company to start working on it. The new stadium will be incorporated in the current bowl of the stadium, just like in Leipzig, Grozny and St. Petersburg:


The Polish industrial giant KGHM will finance it, app. 100mln zl (25mln €)

10. Stadion Ruchu, Chorzow. - 18k (rebuilding of current stadium, one stand after another)
timeline: ?
cost: up to 80mln zl (20mln €)



11. Stadion Widzewa, Lodz. - 16,5k (main stand to be refurbished, others rebuilt)
timeline: ? (year or year and a half needed)
cost: up to 60mln zl (15mln €)



12. Stadion Arki (GOSiR), Gdynia. -15k (completely rebuilt one stand after another)
timeline: 2007-2010 (?)
cost: ?



13. Stadion Radomiaka, Radom. -15k
nothing certain as of yet.


14. Stadion Miejski, Krakow. -14,5k (old stadium rebuilt stand by stand)
timeline: 2006 (one stand demolished), 2008-2010
cost: 80mln zl (propably out of date)



15. Stadion MOSiR Bystrzyca, Lublin. - 12,5k
timeline: ?
cost: 32,5 mln zl (8mln €)



16. Stadion Edwarda Jancarza, Gorzów Wlkp. -10k
timeline: ?
cost: ?







This would be about it for now. I tried to choose the mst propable to be built, but Polish reality shows that there is nothing certain. Hopefully most of them will be available to take a seat and cheer our teams in the next few years, especially that most of the 1st league football team stadiums are featured here.

[fgdf]

Poznan : now capacity - 50000 planned cost ~460 mln zl ( 115 mln EURO)

[michał_]

I wouldn't be so sure. The president of Poznan said it depends on funding and that depends on government decisions. Nothing certain so far.


As for the National Stadium, the international competition for it's design was supposed to end today, but due to high interest and complicated procedures (well... some designers simply didn't send all the required documentations on time) the deadline was expanded to July 13th. So far 27 design offices have expressed their interest in participating in the competition. The final desig will be known in October, the work should start next year.

[michał_]

Maybe it's not the most popular thread... still I have some determination to make it work.

Here's some news on the new stadium for our current champions- Zaglebie Lubin. The decision on their stadium's final design (currently estmiated at "over 100mln zl", previously at 90mln tops) was postponed from July 6th to beginning of August (3rd). Yet someone found the stadium's project on one of Germany's 3D designers' website. However- THE DESIGNER ASKED ME TO REMOVE THE RENDERINGS AS THEY APPEARED TO BE SECRET THEREFORE THEY WILL BE POSTED BACK AROUND AUGUST 4TH.

It is to be built inside the bowl of current stadium, capacity at around 20k. There are currently 3 bidding projects from 2 companies. For sure one of them is Polish- (Bienkowski, Lis, Mierzwa Architekci), the other one is said to be from abroad.

In case of any details coming up I will edit this post.

[Jim856796]

Originally Posted by michał_

National Stadium, Warsaw. - 60-70k (to be built in the spot of today's marketplace, once our national stadium) (for Euro 2012)
timeline: 2008-2010
cost: around 500mln zl (stadium alone, twice the amount with the planned complex)



this vision WILL NOT be constructed, a new competition has been announced, we should know the final design in Autumn.

Whether or not the stadium will have an athletic track surrounding the main soccer field is uncertain.

[blix]

Hi!
Today present's Champion's Hall in Wloclawek (Population: 120 000 ). Champion's Hall it is in sport centre (hotel, pool, stadium and training soccer fields, gym, sauna, small hall, tennis-courts, hall to Cryotherapy, in winter ice rink).

Champions Hall cost: ~5.830.195 EURO. Year of building: 2001. In hall play: Anwil Włocławek (great Polish team). Roof be hung on tenches!

Originally Posted by www.wloclawek.pl

Technical data:

Detached building, one-storey. General structural elements are 22,108 meters high (the highest point of hitch). The ground floor section on its blueprint has a shape of penetrating ellipses with dimensions 88,75x66,25m and 75,75x80,75m with protruding stair-cases and main entrances for the viewers (6,30 meters high)

Area of the building – 6058,99 m2 (the ground floor 4964,4 m2)
Area for use: 8819,89 m2 in:
Level 0.00 –4547,75 m2
Level 3,30 – 1364,10 m2
Level 3,625 – 2908,04 m2

Area of the playing field – 53,75 x 29,00 = 1558,75 m2 the floor of a type Hamberger Sportboden “Haro”

Area of the platform – 2 x 1570,92 m2

Cubature netto of the main aisle – 40 000 m3
The number of stationary sits – 3500 (maximum 4000).

Włocławek is capital city of Kujawy:


1.


2. Night


3.


4. Inside


5.Air photo:



6.Anwil fans:



7. Sport centre:

[GNU]

quite a big list.
Will they all definitely be built?

[michał_]

Originally Posted by Checker

quite a big list.
Will they all definitely be built?

Yes the list is impressive, but we haven't had much construction going on so far

The ones I feel are (almost-there's always something unpredictable that may happen) going to be constructed for sure (at least partly as some of them are planned to be built stand-by-stand) are the National Stadium, Lech Poznan Stadium, Baltic Arena, Wisla Stadium, Legia Stadium, Zaglebie Lubin Stadium, stadiums in Bydgoszcz, Ostrow, Rzeszow and Bialystok.
But actually among these even there are more and less probable. I think the ones named first are more likely to be built, the ones later are less probable.

Plus- Radom city has changed plans lately- they now want to built the stadium (design may actually change sicne the plan has) as part of a huge complex in other part of the city. It would still be some 20k, plus a 7k indoor arena and other facilities. Radom is trying to be one of the training complexes for euro 2012.

[masterpaul]

I expected better from krakow... it such a wonderfull city, with lovely architecture. And then they end up build these 2 horrible stadiums.

Disgrace.

[VelesHomais]

Nice stadiums there

[michał_]

Originally Posted by masterpaul

I expected better from krakow... it such a wonderfull city, with lovely architecture. And then they end up build these 2 horrible stadiums.

Disgrace.

Vice-president of Krakow announced that they are considering hiring a professional institution (read: architects from the West) to finish the stadium. Two stands too late, but always something.