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Old August 20th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #261
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Maybe the Police will stop you anyway to cash their bribes.
That's to bad for them, because I'm not going to bribe them, and I'm not going to get a ticket because, as I said, I would do that only if I am 100% sure that I'm not breaking any law.
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Old August 25th, 2010, 11:25 PM   #265
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Some days ago we had a major accident here in Portugal in A25 motorway ... due t heavy fog some people slowed their cars while others just kept driving at speed like madmen right into the great white void ...

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23th August, 2010

Two accidents near the intersection of Cut, the A25, in Sever do Vouga, made six dead, including two children. The National Authority for Civil Protection (ANPC) pointed at 19:32 hours(military time) for 72 people injured, 48 of them in serious condition. Shocks originated in the chain, involving about 50 vehicles. Twelve vehicles burned up, two are heavy. The GNR and CDOS point "bad weather".

189 vehicules involved in the rescue with 18 doctors on the scene.










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Old August 25th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #266
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Some of my own "near death & idiotic" experiences as a driver.

1st day of "driving lessons" I drove for some 100km ... while "almost" at the end of the journey I stoped in a traffic jam in the motorway exit ... an old lady in a Rover 400 kindly sent out drivin scool car to the junkyard ... we were dislocated some 20 meters while spining in the air ... the old lady had a hard time trying to convince the police that it was my fault ... the police car was actually the 1st car coming in the oposite direction (also stopped due to the jam) and we barely missed it's headlights in our flight .

1st day with the new car (I had just gotten my licence) and it was pouring water like i was the end of the world ... I drove the entire street in the city center with no lights out at 10pm ... in the end I was stoped by the police when I was entering the motoway and they were easily convinced (miraculously) that it was the fault of the lights switch in the old car (I turned my hand a couple of times before actually turning the switch for real).

A couple of weaks later I "jumped" a red signal ... I advanced (with red my way) when I saw the right turn green lit up ... right in front of a truck wich was coming in the motorway at speed.

Somewhere half downhill in a 1km long stretch of road my car brakes failed me ... went straight ahead in the L turn of the exit and at the end just made a powerslide using the handbrake ... parked fine in front of the old abandoned railway station there (wich had a parking lot with gravell) ... 5 seconds to recover my breath and I and my brother(the passenger up front) just said to my mother and aunts (3 backseaters) that we were going to taksomepictures of the station ... as soon as we turned to the other side of the building we "cracked".

One month later I totaly wrecked that car in a aquaplaning incident (agaisnt the back of a Crysler van) ... the alternative was to enter a major highway packed with lots of trucks at speed.

While in the UK in a 1 lane road my coleague drove unto a wooden fence as he saw a lorry coming at us without any intention of stoping (the passing place was in his side of the road) ... then a couple of hours later the same thing happened again ... in the motorway from Edimburgh to Glasgow .. scotish people are nuts.



Other cases of my own stupidity(or someone else around me) while driving should be omited sicne they were basically lot of people I know
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:02 AM   #267
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And with this fine record you have the guts to admit in another thread that you drove 297kph?!?!?

Tell me where you usually drive, so that I will be far
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:21 AM   #268
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Living in a country where anyone likes to spit on the law (unless it is useful to him), many drivers keep a speed constantly higher than the limit, and desperately brake in front of a speed radar.

Yesterday I was on the A4, right lane, sticky at 130 km/h, and a guy was passing me on the middle lane, not faster than 140. I didn't notice the radar, since I don't care, but the moron did, at the very last moment. I got scared to death, seeing this car just in front of my left corner, suddendly doing an emercengy brake for no apparent reason.

F***!

And what's really annoying, is that people is so unaware of the limit, they brake hard in any case.
Some days ago, on a 1+1 rural road, limit 90, flow of traffic going at a perfect 89-91... all the morons braking due to the radar, slowing to 70. Retards. They don't know what they're doing, and they should not drive.
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this is what i've realized, too. people are stupid and think that presence of police control means to slow down, even if they are in limits.
the same is with overtaking too slow police car on open road - often there is a row because nobody doesn't want to overtake them :
That kind of stupid things ocurrs a lot here in portugal.

I usaually go to the south in the weekends and I see a lot of stupid driving around me:

- traffic in the right lane goes as slow as 60-80 ... sometimes folowing a police car and sometimes just snails folowing the snails ahead of them
- at 140km/h I can drive for 300km just barely giving some slack space from the car in front of me and the million cars ahead of us ... but the next guy gives me the headlights the entire way and the next one even goes to the hard shoulder to get into that vital space you left unocupied in front of you ... and then brakes liek mad to prove his point.
- people get on the right lane and start to slow down becausesomeone is ahead ... and then jump in front of you without signaling that they are changing lanes ... or brake like mad because they got skared when they saw you in the rear mirror ... and then go "at your tail" untill they finally pass you ... to then again resume a slower pace than yours ... these are the worst kind.

I got my own kind of "fetiche" driver group ... Coming out of lisboa city to the south shore of the river we pass the Vasco da Gama Bridge:


note: image seen from north looking south

I usually come from the right side just before the begining of the image and do a U turn (its an access ramp) ... and then proceed to get "my pace" on the highway overthe bridge (wich has 3 lanes each direction).

9 out of 10 times theres a guy in a high/sports car who gets screwed in his driving and is stuck behind a slow car of a truck in the right lane ... these guys just move to the middle lane(without anyone in the right) and block the incoming faster traffic


I (knowing that fact) usually move right up to the left lane as soon as I can ... wich means that I end up passing those guys in the sports car in between the pilars of the bridge (or even earlier wich is even worse in the end)

Feeling offended by the manouver when done in a normal mid-sided car ... they get REALY REALY offended when I'm in one of the "cute" little cars (My mothers AX ten or my own AX Diesel are the worse) ... they then get behind me and try to pass me.

If I'm in the mood I usually just let them pass at the 1st oportunity (wich usually involves some F1 piloting on my part) or just wait for them to get their own F1 skills tested (the middle lane is always packed with slow stupid drivers at 80/90 km/h and the right lane usually even slower speeds but almost empty of traffic) ... some try to pass me by the right and usually end up doing a common manouver ... left>middle>right>speed u>middle>left>break almot to a stop in front of me ...

Many times they don't get their lucky days and have to remain at my tail for the entire crossing ... wich then involves a lot of stresssfull (on their part) driving at slowish 140/160km/h

Those dorks usually go to the same direction as me and so end up eating my dust for another 10/20km's as I drive real fast (fast as in keeping a good pace and not as speeding too much over the limit) ... in the end most get an ansiety attack and end up doing something foolish down the road ...

I've been passed a lot of times by the hardshoulder ... just for the guy to usyally exit at the next interchange just 500m away ... or even other guys doing a lot of km's with their horns on and forcing the right lane traffic out of the road and then brakinto a standstill in front of me ... and then resuming the usuall pattern of exiting at the next interchange

And the worst of all are the ones that end up following me at my pace (again 140/160 km/h) all the way to the end of the motor way just to horn and call me names whenever I decided to exit the road and stop at the 1st traffic light.



the funny thing is ... In the middle of all this mess ... besides overspeeding a little I never EVER failed to respect the rules.

Someguys just go EXTREMELY overboard when they are behind the wheel ...
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:38 AM   #269
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And with this fine record you have the guts to admit in another thread that you drove 297kph?!?!?

Tell me where you usually drive, so that I will be far
So what if I drive fast in some ocasions ... let me recapitulate to you:


1 - some old lady wrecked my instruction car in the 1st lesson ... already had 100km of driving behind me.
2- when I bought the 1st car Idrove some 200km and when I was returning home I forgot to turn the lights on (highway interchanges here have HUGE lights and you see like if it was still daylight)
3- I drove "professionaly" for a living a couple of years ... in those conditions I was forced to do a lot of speeding ... how's your next excuse going to be ???

actually I was driving a POLICE CAR DURING A HIGH SPEED PURSUIT when I reached that 297km/h ... too good that I took a couple of professional driving lessons back in the days.



But then again ... the guys who drive these yellow ones in daily basis are the real heroes (medics and nurses who deal with the emergency calls around the country need to have these "upgraded" cars wich are packed with big and powerfull engines and as much medical equipment as a complete hospital)




Have you never done anything wrong in your FIRST SIX MONTHS of driving legally ??? Considering that by the time I wrecked the car (wich was eventually fixed) I already had some 100.000km of driving in my arms ... this in some 6 months of driving.

To my acount the only times I did something wrong other than a little overspeed were 1 red traffic light and 1 driving without lights for ... some 2000m in heavy rain at night.

Theres no warm coming to the world if you drive "secure" at excessive speeds when there's no traffic around and the road is good enough to sustain such speeds.

sidenote: over here if a dog or other anymal crawls into the highway and you happen to hit it ... it is the faults of the company that manages that route as they are all fenced ... so usually the only thing that can interfere with your driving at speed is "traffic" or a colapsed bridge ...

There were even talks over here some years ago about raising the speed limit's in major highways to 200km/h when they were "inaugurating" sections of the A2 motorway each and every weekend (wich basically are some 300km os straight roads) ... then government propaganda took a turn in the oposite direction and passed a "bill" enforcing A ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY on speedign ... that of course when cars started to apear fliped upsidedown in the A2 enbankments ...






... turned in the WRONG direction ... after traveling tru the middle ditch , the oposite direction lanes and up the embankment on the other side.

Clear signs of sleeping at the wheels and colossal overspeeding.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 12:46 AM   #270
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Czech tourist (26) in Audi A8 is chased by Croatian police because of high speed (246 km/h) and reckless driving...



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What are these endless curves? The car is going with 200+ and can't pass the curve for minutes. My head began to spin while watching it...
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Whoever listens to that music cannot be smart... proof is this video...


(just joking about the music, eh!)
That's no joke, that's simple truth. That guy is gonna kill himself.
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Old August 26th, 2010, 09:33 AM   #272
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So what if I drive fast in some ocasions ...
I was only joking, but this phrase I quoted is nonsense. "So what", you say? I answer: "So, I hope we'll never cross paths." I don't really like people driving "fast".

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But then again ... the guys who drive these yellow ones in daily basis are the real heroes (medics and nurses who deal with the emergency calls around the country need to have these "upgraded" cars wich are packed with big and powerfull engines and as much medical equipment as a complete hospital)
Agreed. This guys and police officers are the only one allowed to speed. But then again, I am not forced to like that.

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No. As a matter of fact, I never did anything wrong, driving. I caused an accident on a motorway, a couple years ago, without really breaking any law: the police officers were so embarrased, they had to fine me but they couldn't find a legal reason, so they wrote "dangerous driving" - which I wasn't doing. I crashed onto an unsignaled stopped car in the middle of the lane, after a tunnel and a blind curve. I was doing 100kph while the limit was 130.
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In Bulagria the police is very keen to give you a fine if they cannot find you guilty for the crash and there is noone else to blame - they just write "not-properly consiredered (unsafe) speed", which is highly subjective. E.g. if you hit something on exiting a curve, you will most probably be charged for "not had anticipated the obstacle and did not reduce your speed to such so that be able to stop or avoid hitting the obstacle." Your case is identical.

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"not had anticipated the obstacle and did not reduce your speed
Like I have magical powers to anticipate things in a road I cannot see. I respected safety distance, because there was nobody in front of me. To avoid that crash, I should have traveled at 50 kph, which is illegal and dangerous in a motorway.

The variable message panels in gantries above the motorway signaled a queue many km farther than that spot, and so did the traffic dedicated radio station (Isoradio).

I was guilty of the accident, for sure, but there was really nothing I could do. The only thing I could have done was steering towards the shoulder and not toward the center of the highway, but I didn't really have time to think.

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Wasn't the speed limit lower before and after the tunnel? What kind of a curve on a motorway was it if it was blind and without time to react even when driving with 100 km/h? Are you sure you didn't panic or wasn't distracted and that's why you couldn't avoid the crash?

PS I am not blaming you, I am just curious about the situation.
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Wasn't the speed limit lower before and after the tunnel? What kind of a curve on a motorway was it if it was blind and without time to react even when driving with 100 km/h?
Ok, this is the google street view just before the tunnel:
http://maps.google.it/?ie=UTF8&hq=&h...124.98,,0,4.59

As you can see there are no velocity limit sign, just a "trucks cannot overtake cars" sign.
And this is just after the tunnel:
http://maps.google.it/?ie=UTF8&hq=&h...138.69,,0,5.29

My accident occured a little after the spot where there's the lonely car in the background.
Notice that the Street View picture was taken in the left lane, and still it is impossible to see what is after that car. I was driving in the right lane, so could see even less. But again, no speed signs.

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Are you sure you didn't panic or wasn't distracted and that's why you couldn't avoid the crash?
Distracted, no. Panic? Dunno, possibly. But I managed to avoid, by instinct, the first stopped car by steering (no braking) into the left lane, where there was another stopped car. Then I braked (car with no ABS) but didn't manage to stop in time. As I said before, the only thing I could have done was steering right into the emergency lane.

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Well, after all, I am to blame. I caused the accident!

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What an idiot. Who wants to make a 180 degree turn on a motorway with a full-size truck?
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What are these endless curves? The car is going with 200+ and can't pass the curve for minutes. My head began to spin while watching it...
the video begins exactly here and going northbound. the curves seem to be much more intense because it is very zoomed
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