Your Sheffield Transport Solutions

[lewisskinner]

yeah, slip from M1N-parkway and parkway-M1S would be great as this is the busiest route. I imagine most people going north on the M1 use Tinsley or Grenoside, unless they live in Handsworth or something. Even from Darnall Tinsley is easier!

I do object to them putting traffic lights on the parkway to prioritise bus lanes though. It's supposed to be our main M1 Expressway!

[AdamBlade]

Yeah I agree, traffic lights on the Parkway would be a nightmare

[tom85]

Traffic lights would not necessarily be a bad thing, the ones on the slip roads on the M1 at 35 and 35a work brilliantly in a morning they keep traffic flowing well.

[AndrewC]

I'm all for more bus lanes/traffic calming/traffic management etc etc etc, but I think things like bus lanes and traffic lights on a road like the parkway is pure madness. As much as the car is vilified these days we still need to provide adequate road links and the Parkway needs to be an uninterrupted expressway linking the city centre to the M1 and the 3/4 major junctions inbetween. Which bus routes even use the parkway?

[RichJay]

I know that the 23 and the 26 go down the parkway.

[RichJay]

Double post

[sheff89]

The ring road now has 2 lanes going all the way around! (the st mary's road bit is now 2 lanes) About time as well

[unners]

I know the 30 goes down the parkway.

[unners]

Originally Posted by sheff89

The ring road now has 2 lanes going all the way around! (the st mary's road bit is now 2 lanes) About time as well

About bloody time!

[lewisskinner]

Agree AndrewC (wow, how often have I said that? ). The parkway ought to be kept as a primary expressway route to the M1, and indeed I think ought to be upgraded to motorway standard, as the Aston Expressway in Brum has.

[lewisskinner]

Originally Posted by sheff89

The ring road now has 2 lanes going all the way around! (the st mary's road bit is now 2 lanes) About time as well

How is the new widening supposed to work? Will they get rid of the Shoreham Street for northbound/Suffolk Road for southbound traffic?

[sheff89]

Originally Posted by lewisskinner

How is the new widening supposed to work? Will they get rid of the Shoreham Street for northbound/Suffolk Road for southbound traffic?

Not sure what you mean, but there are 4 lanes from granville square until the Standard Pub where 2 lanes go up Matilda Street (up to the city), and then 2 lanes for the rind road, all the way up. Edmund road is only accessible from coming past the Standard, and traffic joining the ring road from Edmund road can only turn left (now its dual carridgeway, although cars were making U turns on Derby day, which caused quite a lot of problems)

Cheers!

Edit, you can get on shoreham street by going up matilda street then turn left.

[arepeejee]

OK, here's a novel one broken into two different parts - one about parking, the other about road speed.

Parking - So many buildings are being built (and rightly so) on tarmac topped parking in the city centre. However, this means building big brash (and expensive) parking facilities as parts of every development.

Surely, it would be a better idea to build parking 3 floors underground every new building that is applicable (subject to ground condition and viability) where possible. The building owners will gain revenue from car parking, and the streets won't be full of parked cars, or MSCPs.

As for the speed issue, after a recent trip to Bruges in Belgium I noted that their inner ring road was tarmac, as was the road to the main motorway nearby. Every other road was cobbled, either medieval cobbles or more recent cobbling. Traffic was forced to slow down, and the quality of the roads remained much higher (cobbles are well known to outlast even the toughest modern tarmacs) and drainage was simply superb (following the Roman idea of overall curving surfaces) so no standing water was left on the roads.

So, not only does it cut down speed (impossible to speed on cobbles without getting a headache/wrecking your car, but driving normally you don't notice it at all) but the road surface will last longer. Bargain.

[Bulldozer]

Yep Agree with you there RPG, I said before about more U/G parking in developments.

Cobble idea sounds good if right level of roughness, combined with no railing and less signage and junk street furniture cluttering up the place.

[dinp]

I dont disagree with undercroft parking but you have to consider the impact on the water table... where will storm water end up if it cant infiltrate the soil undergound? Will we have another meadowhall flooding on our hands?

[Bulldozer]

Most of Sheffield's hills so water tables not high, strata's permeable sandstone / shales. Surface absorption low as most of areas built on with concrete or tarmac, most surface water drainage is to storm sewer / combined sewer. doubt that there is many soakaways in city center ?

[RichJay]

Here's some news on the ticket barriers from the star...

BARRIERS at Sheffield train station will cut ticketless travel and crime, a rail company claims.
East Midlands Trains intends to introduce automatic ticket gates but has promised extensive consultation ahead of the move.

Tim Shoveller, managing director for East Midlands Trains, said: "We are very aware the station is used as a route by people accessing other facilities such as the tram network.

"However I must stress that we are going to introduce the gates because we believe they will bring benefits in terms of improving security and reducing ticketless travel, something which I am sure people will understand we must address."

I don't see where they can put ticket barriers that would be safe. They can't be located too close to the stairs because this would be dangerous at busy times but there doesn't seem to be space to put them anywhere else.

[jozblade]

The only viable place i can think would be on the platforms themselves either near the entrance or stairs. Set the barriers back a bit from the bottom of the stairs and have railings to fill in the gaps.

[RichJay]

I had thought about that but then you still have the potential for people to be waiting on the stairs at busy times.

[jozblade]

Yeah you're right. I think the whole idea is a waste of time to be honest. I cant see how it can work successfuly in Sheffield station due to its layout.