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Old December 2nd, 2012, 05:25 PM   #2621
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Liverpool to host final Battle of Atlantic commemoration

LIVERPOOL will host the final national commemoration of the Battle of the Atlantic on its 70th anniversary to mark the city’s crucial role in the conflict.

The official Battle of the Atlantic Commemoration will be held over next May’s Spring Bank Holiday. The four day programme will involve both the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy from May 24 - 27.

The key events will take place on Saturday and Sunday, May 26 - 27 on the waterfront, including warships from the Royal Navy and foreign navies.

There will be a major commemoration service at the Anglican Cathedral for all veterans and national representatives. The main Royal Marines Band, Portsmouth, will give a concert at Liverpool Philharmonic Hall and a 1940s party event at St George’s Hall, Liverpool.

The Battle of the Atlantic was a six year conflict lasting the entire Second World War, dedicated to keeping open Britain’s vital supply lines into Liverpool, which was both receiving port and battle command centre.


Convoys of ships loaded with food, arms, raw materials and troops gathered at Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, for the hazardous voyage across a North Atlantic infested by German U-boats .

Branded by Winston Churchill as the only battle which kept him awake at night, veterans criticised the public’s lack of awareness about the conflict.

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Old December 5th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #2622
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I attended a protest/'show of support' today - for the threatened Holt Arcade in India Buildings ( was anyone else from SSC there?). We were handed a hastily printed message from the director of Green Properties ( based in London) which suggested that we may in some way 'harm the fabric of the building" during the protest., and that as far as he's concerned the market has decided it has no future potential as a retail destination.

I cannot disagree more. I could easily see it as an arcade housing other antique shops ( other than Wayne's) and perhaps antiquarian booksellers; specialist tea supplier etc.

Anyway - here are some pictures that I took. Radio Merseyside were there, as was a photographer for The Post/Echo:















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Old December 5th, 2012, 08:34 PM   #2623
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Good work Jane. It would be a real pity if the arcade closed.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #2624
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What an amazing looking place - I never knew existed.
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Old December 5th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #2625
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Good work Jane. It would be a real pity if the arcade closed.
TBH GV it would be a crime! It cannot be allowed to happen.
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Old December 6th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #2626
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TBH GV it would be a crime! It cannot be allowed to happen.
One of the major problems with the arcade is, as Ramsbrook has pointed out,not enough people know of its existence. Even a lot of locals are unaware of it never mind visitors. I think the council will have to become involved at some level here, whether they have put restrictions on pavement advertising or the building's listed status is preventing external advertising, I don't know, but the place has to become more visible.

Another thing is the tenants. Wayne's shop , for the most part is full of over-priced tat. The city centre (in fact the city itself) has a dearth of antique shops.I agree with Jane,the arcade needs a good antique shop, or even the likes of the one in Renshaw St(can't remember the name) which has some good oriental stuff. Also some specialist shops, my own choice would be antique clocks and repairs, shops of this type anyway .
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Old December 6th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #2627
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Liverpool to host final Battle of Atlantic commemoration

LIVERPOOL will host the final national commemoration of the Battle of the Atlantic on its 70th anniversary to mark the city’s crucial role in the conflict.

The official Battle of the Atlantic Commemoration will be held over next May’s Spring Bank Holiday. The four day programme will involve both the Royal Navy and the Merchant Navy from May 24 - 27.

The key events will take place on Saturday and Sunday, May 26 - 27 on the waterfront, including warships from the Royal Navy and foreign navies.

There will be a major commemoration service at the Anglican Cathedral for all veterans and national representatives. The main Royal Marines Band, Portsmouth, will give a concert at Liverpool Philharmonic Hall and a 1940s party event at St George’s Hall, Liverpool.

The Battle of the Atlantic was a six year conflict lasting the entire Second World War, dedicated to keeping open Britain’s vital supply lines into Liverpool, which was both receiving port and battle command centre.


Convoys of ships loaded with food, arms, raw materials and troops gathered at Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, for the hazardous voyage across a North Atlantic infested by German U-boats .

Branded by Winston Churchill as the only battle which kept him awake at night, veterans criticised the public’s lack of awareness about the conflict.

Read More http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...#ixzz2DudRWOUK
On the lack of public awareness I would partly blame the BBC, who are all for the individual heroism (which in no way am I belittling) of the Battle of Britain fighter pilots (Dan Snow type history programs and various celebrities flying in spitfires)- see also which projects get government backing too - (Spitfires dug up in Burma for example and not HMS Whimbrel)

Notice how these interpretations of what and how to commemorate are close to London too.

Maybe an email to David Cameron should highlight this commemoration of the Atlantic conflict
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A bit of really good news,apologies if its been posted elsewhere http://m.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ms...ool_Local_News
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On the lack of public awareness I would partly blame the BBC, who are all for the individual heroism (which in no way am I belittling) of the Battle of Britain fighter pilots (Dan Snow type history programs and various celebrities flying in spitfires)- see also which projects get government backing too - (Spitfires dug up in Burma for example and not HMS Whimbrel)

Notice how these interpretations of what and how to commemorate are close to London too.

Maybe an email to David Cameron should highlight this commemoration of the Atlantic conflict
Also don't forget, London was the only city in Britain to be bombed during WW2; most TV shows about the blitz would suggest that.
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On the lack of public awareness I would partly blame the BBC, who are all for the individual heroism (which in no way am I belittling) of the Battle of Britain fighter pilots (Dan Snow type history programs and various celebrities flying in spitfires)- see also which projects get government backing too - (Spitfires dug up in Burma for example and not HMS Whimbrel)
Notice how these interpretations of what and how to commemorate are close to London too.

Maybe an email to David Cameron should highlight this commemoration of the Atlantic conflict
One of my little bugbears . A squashed four foot square lump of metal, along with a rusty propeller and parts of a wing are dug up or brought from the bottom of a lake....and two years later you have a 'restored' Hurricane, Spitfire etc. Erm no you don't, you have a new plane
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Old December 7th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #2631
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Also don't forget, London was the only city in Britain to be bombed during WW2; most TV shows about the blitz would suggest that.
The parochialism on this forum can be oppressive at times. You have to be realistic, given the fact more people died from wartime bombing in London than the whole of the rest of the UK combined you are never going to get a balanced coverage. The ratio of fatalities London - Merseyside per head of population is about the same but scale is the factor, 30,000 London dead, 4,000 Merseyside.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 07:12 AM   #2632
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What a wonderful dream...if the PM, government, Royal Navy and other agencies could contrive to bring HMS Whimbrel back during the ceremonies next year and if she was seaworthy having her sailing in flotilla up the Mersey.

Maybe, just maybe that what's being planned. I was brought up in the post war boom years of the 1960's and the experiences and formative stuff was far removed from the heroics, collectivism and atmosphere of the war and yet there is enough through the tales and experiences of family and friends for the HMS Whimbrel story to resonate with me.....enough for me to be cheering from the banks of the Mersey with a tear in my eye.
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Old December 8th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #2633
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Jets, How about e-mailing your MP?

I've just done that myself and mentioned Cameron's role in the return of the Spitfires.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #2634
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Old December 14th, 2012, 04:32 PM   #2636
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Ashtenne to refurbish Mercury Court

Ashtenne Space Northwest plans to spend £5m redeveloping Mercury Court, the 190,000 sq ft former Exchange Station on Tithebarn Street in central Liverpool.

Wayne Locke, director at Ashtenne Space Northwest, said: "Ashtenne Space Northwest has owned Mercury Court for six years and the market is now right for this significant investment to bring it up to date with modern technology and facilities, embracing the building's important status in Liverpool's economic history, creating a unique office product for the city's business occupiers.

"Having seen Liverpool Vision's inspiring Strategic Investment Framework for Liverpool for the next 15 years and with the International Festival of Business coming to the city in 2014, we need a world class office destination and we believe that Exchange Station will be the place to do business."

Mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, said: "This investment from Ashtenne Space Northwest is most welcome, and will bring a major boost to this historic city centre building.
"Exchange Station has long been an important landmark in this part of the city and these plans will help maximise the building's potential as a first-class business destination. I'm looking forward to work getting underway."

Max Steinberg, chief executive of Liverpool Vision, said of Exchange Station: "The fact that Ashtenne Space Northwest is investing £5m into the first phase of development at Exchange Station is excellent news for the city. As it continues on its successful journey, Liverpool is competing on a world stage and in just a few months we will see a new office destination with 21st Century business at its forefront. We are extremely pleased to see this level of development in the Central Business District and we are sure that it will continue to attract world class businesses."

Hoardings went up on site at Exchange Station this week, with construction due to start on site at the beginning of January.
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I did what I thought was a proper search and couldn't find the old thread about the Liverpool census data, so wasn't really sure where to post this...

I had a look through the data released in late November by the ONS on population statistuics for Super Output Areas http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/publicatio...cm%3A77-284349.
In the data table there are 62 areas listed in Liverpool, and the data for them is very interesting, but which locations these areas correspond to I haven't been able to work out. The highest by density is area 012 with 118.4 persons per hectare. Again, I'd love to be able to compare with the 2001 data but haven't been able to work that out, either! Can anybody assist? Ta!
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Old December 17th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #2638
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Public appeal launched to help explore Liverpool’s past



The old Custom House at Liverpool DocksThe old Custom House at Liverpool Docks

A project from the University of Sheffield is launching an appeal for the people of Liverpool to come forward and contribute records, evidence and family stories of Liverpool in the late 19th century when it was a bustling staging point for migrants on their way from the continent to America.

Researchers at the University of Sheffield have created an online virtual world (www.olanordmann.co.uk) set in the 1880s, where the character Ola Nordmann leaves his home in Norway and crosses the North Sea to Hull and then Liverpool and finally sails to New York City.

Now that Ola is set to begin his journey through the virtual city of Liverpool, the project team are appealing to the public of Liverpool to get in touch and share any information they may have about what Liverpool was like at the end of the 19th century.

Research Associate Louise Sorensen said: “Copies of photographs, documents, records, or even memories like family stories are all really valuable sources of information to us. From individual members of the public to local museums or organisations, we’d love anyone with information to get in touch. All contributions are much appreciated.”

Louise explained the motivation behind the project: “As well as being a lot of fun, this project investigates whether a Second Life-style virtual world like this can bring people together - people who are spread across a large part of the globe - and study history in a new way.”

The virtual world went live in October 2012 and has attracted interest from users in Norway, America and the UK. In the past month these users have been able to explore Ola’s journey from his humble farm dwellings near Voss to Bergen. A ship is now being built in the virtual world to carry Ola across the North Sea from Bergen to England.

“Now we need help creating the virtual city of Liverpool as it was in the late 19th century,” continued Louise. “We are hoping that the people of Liverpool will be able to provide us with more information about how the migrants spent their time here. It does not necessarily have to be about individuals, and details about the industry surrounding the lucrative migration business, i.e. steam liners, railways ticket agents, hotels and boarding houses, would help us enhance the virtual world.

“We know that the stream of migrants prompted authorities in Liverpool to instruct the shipping and rail companies involved to improve the facilities provided. In Liverpool, for example, the Riverside Quay Railway Station was opened in 1895 specifically for people travelling on the steam liners; they could almost walk straight off the train and onboard the ship.”

So far the project has received great interest, many people have signed up for the virtual world and the site has sparked interest from educational games developers and other organisations interested in historical education. The project team have established a relationship with the Liverpool International Nordic Community based at the Gustav Adolf Church in Park Lane. The website has also proved to be very popular with Norwegian-American heritage associations and people researching family history and genealogy.

Louise said: “There is no doubt that transmigration through these ports is an under-researched area on which we are hoping to shed some light. By using a virtual world we are taking a different approach to traditional history and are making this unprecedented movement of people from east to west come alive in interactive 3D.”

http://www.shef.ac.uk/news/nr/ola-no...rpool-1.225185
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Also don't forget, London was the only city in Britain to be bombed during WW2; most TV shows about the blitz would suggest that.

And don't forget Manchester.
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The parochialism on this forum can be oppressive at times. You have to be realistic, given the fact more people died from wartime bombing in London than the whole of the rest of the UK combined you are never going to get a balanced coverage. The ratio of fatalities London - Merseyside per head of population is about the same but scale is the factor, 30,000 London dead, 4,000 Merseyside.
It is not parochial to ask for a bit of balance.

http://http://www.iwm.org.uk/events/iwm-north/a-closer-look-manchester-blitz

Did the IWMN similarly commemorate the anniversary of the Liverpool bomings?

Now THAT is not just parochial, it is close to a rewriting of history if not. And by a war museum.

A BBC programe was also broadcast on the Manchester Blitz earlier in the year was it not?

Have you seen the Liverpool one yet?
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