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Old September 9th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #561
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Is it refused that's the old scheme surely? this one's not even gone into planning yet has it?
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Old September 10th, 2011, 04:18 PM   #562
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Not sure if this image has been posted on this thread showing off the scheme in all its blocky glory.


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completely ****s up any skyline view of the London Eye. Surely that kind of massing is out of date?? A taller, graceful tower would have been more in keeping; reminds me of how Guy's Hospital impacts on the Shard.
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Old September 28th, 2011, 11:24 PM   #563
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So if the Elizabeth House Redevelopment buildings had their permission refused, does this mean that Elizabeth House will never be replaced with a brand-new building?
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 11:37 PM   #564
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New designs submitted and website updated:
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Much, much better than the last scheme, although i'm incredulous whether it will:
1) get approved (It is now taller than the shell centre tower)
2) the blocky massing will be anything other than a blot on the skyline
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Old April 2nd, 2012, 11:47 PM   #565
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I agree its much better than the old scheme, but still far from looking.. nice.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:05 AM   #566
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Yeah part of me thinks it's not the kind of scheme that should be built in such a prominent location, but thinking pragmatically, we're not going to get a better building than this. Also it's better than the 60s shite it's replacing which is always nice.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:08 AM   #567
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Stacked boxes. Meh.

This definitely is way better than the previous proposal but that just shows how bad the old scheme was.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 03:51 AM   #568
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Another render:



With the Shell centre redevelopment, we could have another cluster emerging
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 10:02 AM   #569
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It's hard to get worked up about this one. Much better than what's there, but buildings on stilts rarely work: too scary to walk under at night, and they are somehow intimidating. The gallery on the ground floor is great. How well this all works depends on the Shell Centre.

Anyway, I just feel sorry for that tree. It has to live in perpetual shadow with that overhang above it.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 12:59 PM   #570
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With the Shell centre redevelopment, we could have another cluster emerging
What is the render of the tall building to the left of the Elizabeth House "block" meant to be?
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 01:07 PM   #571
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Doon Street Tower http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349637
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 01:57 PM   #572
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Not much to go on, but it looks much better than the previous slab. I'm getting a slightly Tokyo vibe from it for some reason. Perhaps they really did listen to the feedback we gave.

Looking at the site posted above, the public spaces with the overhanging building look quite interesting, at least to me.

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Old April 3rd, 2012, 02:22 PM   #573
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Much, much better. Still ugly, but much better.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 02:47 PM   #574
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I like it, the stacked-box building at least. Removing the dated skywalk and opening up the ground level running parellel between EH and Waterloo could be a huge improvement in terms of not only much needed public space to let the station breath, but also in helping out with access to other parts of this area. The central square could be a bit of genius design by bringing some life to York Road. At the moment it's like walking down a street flanked by blank walls.

The second building still sucks though.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 02:53 PM   #575
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Some more views:







Some of the previous images for comparison:





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Old April 3rd, 2012, 02:55 PM   #576
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It's very featureless from groundlevel. Also very overbearing.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 03:45 PM   #577
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That's what I thought, it's nice that it slants inwards towards Waterloo, but it looks oppressive. Doesn't work with the Station Frontage at all.
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Old April 3rd, 2012, 05:01 PM   #578
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It's a step in the right direction. The previous design was so dire I was getting ready to set up a campaign against it. It's still not that great, and given the constraints of the site it will probably never end up that good. But it's still an improvement over the last idea!
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Old April 4th, 2012, 12:19 AM   #579
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I think I'm more offended by Doon street tower than this proposal. The massing compliments the shell centre well as do the elevations which are simple yet viewed obliquely give the impression of solidity which I think is so much better than just a glass box.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 02:36 AM   #580
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I think I'm more offended by Doon street tower than this proposal. The massing compliments the shell centre well as do the elevations which are simple yet viewed obliquely give the impression of solidity which I think is so much better than just a glass box.
i think Doon street and a taller Lizzy house need each other. why is doon street so offensive?
i think the most offensive thing about waterloo is the crappy public realm, its a car crash, railings, uneven, its just crap.

does anyone know what happened with the winning proposal for the redevelopment of the waterloo area? is it happening?
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