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Old April 10th, 2014, 10:07 AM   #4041
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lastsamurai, thank you for yout answer, but there is one thing which I don“t understand.. why do I have first to drive after the fyromian boarder Kjafsane to Pogradec and then to Elbasan?? After the fyromian boarder Kjafsane, there is a crossroad to Elbasane??!!

Well I would rather like to stay outside of Vlore, where is more quite..I heard the best of it. My friend is from Kosovo, and he is already been there and told me how beautiful there is and that the people are very pleasant.
I know from personal experience, Croats according to the Bosnians are not pleasant.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 10:21 AM   #4042
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lastsamurai, thank you for yout answer, but there is one thing which I don“t understand.. why do I have first to drive after the fyromian boarder Kjafsane to Pogradec and then to Elbasan?? After the fyromian boarder Kjafsane, there is a crossroad to Elbasane??!!
You can reach Elbasan only on the route explained above





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Well I would rather like to stay outside of Vlore, where is more quite..I heard the best of it. My friend is from Kosovo, and he is already been there and told me how beautiful there is and that the people are very pleasant.
I know from personal experience, Croats according to the Bosnians are not pleasant.
When do u plan to visit?.

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Old April 10th, 2014, 10:45 AM   #4043
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That“s exactly what I thought!!
Thanks..

Well, in the first week of August, we are visiting our brother-in-law in Struga, then we planned to drive to Vlore.
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Old April 10th, 2014, 08:24 PM   #4044
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My friend is from Kosovo, and he is already been there and told me how beautiful there is and that the people are very pleasant.
I know from personal experience, Croats according to the Bosnians are not pleasant.
How do you reach this generalizing conclusion if I may ask?
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Old April 10th, 2014, 08:26 PM   #4045
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How do you reach this generalizing conclusion if I may ask?
Dont hijack the thread pls,you can ask each other in PM.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #4046
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Dear friends from Albania!
We have to travel from Skopie to Podgorica by car. The variant tru Kosovo is not optimal since we have to pay additional car insurance for Kosovo (Green cards are not valid over there).
Thats'why we are seachcing variants tru Albania. What is the quality of the road Debar-Burrel-Shkoder? Or it's better to drive tru Struga-Elbasan-Tirana-Shkoder?
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Old April 15th, 2014, 12:37 PM   #4047
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Best route to take is the one you just mention last struge-librazhd- elbasan- tirane- than shkoder-Podgorica Albanian side will is about 5-6 hours drive generally good road condition,
The other route is way to bad condition and will take you longer even the distance is much shorter my opinion anyway.
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Old April 16th, 2014, 07:08 AM   #4048
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Thats'why we are seachcing variants tru Albania. What is the quality of the road Debar-Burrel-Shkoder? Or it's better to drive tru Struga-Elbasan-Tirana-Shkoder?
The second option is better despite looking shorter the first one.Roads are ok,it's not 90s anymore..
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Old April 17th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #4049
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Dear friends from Albania!
We have to travel from Skopie to Podgorica by car. The variant tru Kosovo is not optimal since we have to pay additional car insurance for Kosovo (Green cards are not valid over there).
Thats'why we are seachcing variants tru Albania. What is the quality of the road Debar-Burrel-Shkoder? Or it's better to drive tru Struga-Elbasan-Tirana-Shkoder?
Roads on Debar are quite horrible, I know that people of Debar who wanna reach Tirana always use this way. Debar-Struga-Elbasan-Tirana. So if they don't even use the roads from the next door, don't do this mistake as well.
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Old April 18th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #4050
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The road Debar - Tirana is currently rebuilt with a new alignment (Rruga e Arberit) and it's not finished yet! The old road over Burrel is said to be in bad shape.
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Old April 18th, 2014, 02:40 PM   #4051
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The old road is not in bad shape and has recently been repaved, but is all curvy, if you choose that route you have to make an exhausting journey from Dibra to Tirana and is precisely for this reason that many who travel from Macedonia choose the path via Elbasan.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #4052
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Ah, ok, I didn't realize the new pavement...
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 07:17 PM   #4053
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 07:20 PM   #4054
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€ 14.5 million per kilometer in mountainous terrain is not really that bad.
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Old April 24th, 2014, 01:11 AM   #4055
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€ 14.5 million per kilometer in mountainous terrain is not really that bad.
The problem is that this was the first real motorway Project with european standards compared to other motorways in Albania. But still it can not be compared to the real motorways in Germany for example.

There is to many 80km/h stretches for my liking on that motorway. There is neither restareas as you expect on a german motorway.
The reason I compare it to german standars is because they are among the best ones in my opinion.

Problem here was that the old road one was very bad and dangerous and so not matter what you built, it would still be a major improvement compared to the old one...
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Old April 24th, 2014, 11:40 AM   #4056
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Old April 25th, 2014, 09:13 AM   #4057
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Old April 25th, 2014, 09:24 AM   #4058
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moderntm,dont post unrelated videos with this thread.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 01:49 PM   #4059
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moderntm,dont post unrelated videos with this thread.
chill out , nothing unrelated . Stop being so strict with this thread . It is a forum
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Old April 25th, 2014, 02:36 PM   #4060
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