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Old May 6th, 2006, 08:27 AM   #181
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the first train is nothing special, it might be bombardier, china already has those in various routes beginning with Z. (express) for example between Beijing and Shanghai, it's not HSR, the max speed is about 160 km/h.
These are indeed Bombardier trains, type C2008, but these are not already in service. This Swedish design is based on the "Regina" local trainsets build for various operators in Sweden. These eight-car trainsets have a maximum speed of 200 km/h and are delivered between July 2006 and July 2007.

Bombardier C2008 trains:

Gauge mm 1 435
Power supply 25 kV 50 Hz
Maximum speed km/h 200
Maximum acceleration m/s² 0·6
Overall width mm 3 328
Roof height mm 4 040
Floor height above rail mm 1 250
Maximum axleload tonnes 16
Length of eight-car trainset m 214
Total weight tonnes 420
Number of seats (max) 760
Toilets per trainset 14
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Old May 6th, 2006, 08:36 AM   #182
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The "China Star" look very interesting. Does any one know any website that talk about its development and spec. Also, is the "China Star" used in China and where?
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Old May 6th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #183
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the secend is Shinkansen!
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Old May 6th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #184
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中国计划订购60列以东日本旅客铁道(East Japan R ailway Co.)的“疾风”(Hayate)新干线列车为原型的高速列车。

作为中国铁路提速项目的组成部分,中方将向川崎重工业(Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd.,7012.TO)和其他日本公司处订购这批火车。据悉,日本的“疾风”型子弹头列车时速可达275公里左右。

川崎重工业新闻发言人 Masahito K odera表示,公司正在和中方谈判,但是拒绝就共同社披露的数据作出评论。 Masahito K odera说:“谈判还在进行中,因此不便就细节作出评论。”川崎重工业去年曾成功赢得中国铁道部改造重要铁路线的合同。

据报道,中国计划通过使用日本高速列车,将五条铁路的时速提高一倍。
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Old May 6th, 2006, 02:08 PM   #185
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China plans to purchase 60 railway passengers in the east of Japan (East Japan R ailway Co. ) "high" (Hayate) prototype for the high-speed train Shinkansen train. As part of China's railway acceleration project, the Chinese side will provide Kawasaki Heavy Industries (Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd. , 7012.TO) and other Japanese companies Department ordered these trains. It is reported that the Japanese "winds" - the first bullet trains at speeds of up to 275 kilometres offshore. Kawasaki Heavy Industries spokesman Masahito K odera said, the company is negotiating with the Chinese side, but refused to comment on the form of data disclosure. Masahito K odera said : "Negotiations are still ongoing and therefore inconvenient to comment on the details. "Last year, Kawasaki Heavy Industries won the China Ministry of Railways successful transformation of important rail contract. According to reports, China plans through the use of Japanese high-speed train railway will be five speed doubled.
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Old May 6th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #188
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Nice train choices, finally some decent long distance travelling trains in mainland china (except the maglev there the best!!).
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so those Shinkansen trains are not for HSR either?
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Old May 6th, 2006, 07:53 PM   #190
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These Shinkansen are not for HSR, these are only 200 km/h fast. 60 eight-car sets have been ordered, the first trains will be build in Japan, the rest in China.

When new lines are build for real HSR, 275 km/h Shinkansen trainsets will come to China.
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Old May 7th, 2006, 10:11 PM   #191
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That's cool. Was there any train operations to/out of Tibet before?
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OLD article, but it gives an overview of China's HSR development.

High speed trainsets take shape
01 August 2005

Chinese Railways has ordered three fleets of high speed trains for operation of 200 km/h regional inter-city services

TO OPERATE its emerging network of dedicated passenger routes (p479), Chinese Railways expects to put into service by 2015 a fleet of 1000 trainsets designed to operate at speeds of 200 km/h or more.

Tenders are to be called next year for the very high speed trains to operate on the 300 to 350 km/h routes, but work is already underway on three fleets of 200 km/h trainsets to operate intermediate services on regional corridors and the three inter-city networks.

To support the high speed fleet, the Ministry of Railways is planning to develop four major depot and workshop complexes in Beijing, Shanghai, Wuhan and Guangzhou, each with a capacity of around 250 trainsets.

As part of the ongoing speed-up programme, CR and the China Academy of Railway Sciences have been working for several years on developing a range of locally-built 200 km/h trainsets to work on existing lines. In addition, the China Star trainset (RG 6.03 p344) was developed by a consortium of Chinese manufacturers at a cost of 100m yuan for operation at up to 300 km/h on the Beijing - Shenyang high speed line.

However, when the present Minister of Railways Liu Zhijun took office in mid-2003, the ministry's focus changed from developing domestic technology to addressing rapidly the growing bottlenecks on the railway network.

Faced with the need to build up a large fleet of high speed trains in a relatively short timescale, the Ministry of Railways decided to call international tenders for the supply of 140 trainsets, split into seven batches of 20 units. On October 9 2004 technology transfer contracts were awarded to three international consortia.

Shinkansen success
A ¥140bn contract for 60 eight-car trainsets was awarded to a consortium of Japanese companies led by Kawasaki that includes Hitachi, Itochu Corp and Mitsubishi Corp, Mitsubishi Electric and Marubeni Corp, working with the Nache Sifang subsidiary of the China Southern Locomotive & Rolling Stock Industry Co. As consortium leader, in charge of managing the overall design and manufacture of the 480 vehicles, Kawasaki's share of the contract is worth ´80bn.

The Japanese trainsets will be based on the E2-1000 Shinkansen design used by JR East for its premier Tokyo - Hachinohe Hayate services launched in December 2002. The first three trains will be supplied complete from Japan and the following six in knocked-down form. The remaining 51 sets will be assembled in China by Nache Sifang over the next two years under the terms of the technology transfer deal.

An improved variant of JR East's E2 design, the E2-1000 achieved 362 km/h during a high-speed test run on the Joetsu Shinkansen between Urasa and Niigata on April 6 2003. The design features a double-skin carbody structure and 25 kV 50Hz traction equipment. The E2-1000 driving trailers and first class car have active suspensions for 275 km/h operation, whilst semi-active suspensions are used on the remaining vehicles (Table I). VVVF traction controls and three-phase motors are fitted.

The Japanese sets have a 10-car formation with two driving trailers and eight motor vehicles, seating 814. The Chinese sets will be shorter, as an eight-car formation has been selected as standard. Two trainsets will be able to operate in multiple.

Wide-bodied Pendolino
Another 60 trainsets are being supplied by Alstom in conjunction with China Northern's subsidiary Changchun Railway Vehicles. Other Chinese companies such as Yongji are supplying subsystems for the trains which are expected to enter commercial service in 2007. Based at Beijing, the units will run on the northern routes around Beijing and Harbin.

In a similar breakdown to the Kawasaki contract, the first three Alstom trains are due to be completed in France, with parts for the next six being shipped to China for local assembly. The remaining 51 sets will be built at Changchun. Components will be sourced from Alstom's plants at Savigliano and Sesto San Giovanni in Italy and from Tarbes and Ornans in France.

The design is derived from the wide-bodied Finnish variant in Alstom's tilting Pendolino family, with bodyshells formed of extruded aluminium profiles. There will be no provision for tilt. Maximum width of the Chinese sets will be 3200mm (Table II). The air-conditioned trains will be sealed to cope with pressure pulses from two trains passing at 200 km/h in double-track tunnels. The trains are being designed to operate in temperatures ranging from -25°C to +40°C.

Each eight-car trainset will be powered by 10 underframe-mounted asynchronous traction motors, giving a total continuous rating of 5500 kW. The 6·5 kV IGBT traction controls will be water-cooled, with three transformers and five converter sets to offer a degree of redundancy. Rheostatic and regenerative braking will be fitted, and two units will be able to operate in multiple.

Styling has been placed in the hands of Giugiaro Design. Seating will be arranged 2+2 in first class and 2+3 in second class. An eight-car set will have 622 seats. There will be a mix of face-to-face seating with tables and airline-style face-to-back seats. For improved circulation, the internal and external doors will have a clear width of 800mm, as will the internal gangway and inter-car connections. Retractable steps will be fitted at each doorway.

Each trainset will include an area for passengers with reduced mobility, including a wheelchair-accessible toilet. There will also be a bar-cafe area and catering service facilities including hot water dispensers for tea making. The passenger information system includes audio and visual displays, plus external announcement facilities. As well as automated announcements, there is provision for manual broadcasts by driver or train crew members. On-train entertainment will be provided, with the first class cars featuring armrest-mounted headphone controls and drop-down ceiling-mounted video monitors.

Regina variant in the south
The remaining 20 trainsets in the initial tranche are coming from the established Bombardier Sifang Power joint venture in Qingdao, which is already building loco-hauled inter-city stock for CR. Under the US$424m order, the C2008 trainsets are due for delivery between July 2006 and July 2007, and are expected to be used on routes in the south of the country.

On June 27 this year the Ministry of Railways signed a 'strategic co-operation framework agreement' with Bombardier which provides for the purchase of additional trainsets, starting with an option for 20 more eight-car sets for delivery in 2007-08.

This accord also includes an agreement for the consortium to develop and support the Guangzhou maintenance depot able to service up to 250 high speed EMUs. The ministry will provide land for the depot, which will be designed and equipped by Bombardier. The company will also supply maintenance management services, spare parts, technical support and training over 20 years.

The C2008 trains are being designed at Västerås in Sweden, where some of the propulsion equipment will be manufactured. Bogies will come from Bombardier's Siegen plant, and the trains will be assembled by BSP at Qingdao. The design is a development of the wide-bodied Regina EMUs now in widespread use on regional services in southern and western Sweden.

Electrically, each train will be split into three units. Two will be formed with a driving motor, pantograph trailer and non-driving motor car, and the middle section will pair another non-driving motor and trailer car. This will give 20 powered axles out of 32 (Fig 1).

With a body width of 3 328 mm, the C2008 can easily accommodate the required 2+3 seating for standard class and 2+2 in first class, giving a total of up to 760 seats in an eight-car train (Table III). Seating will be a mix of face-to-face with tables and face-to-back airline style. Each vehicle will have a single wide doorway offset from the centre of the car, opening into a large vestibule area with toilets and related services. A bistro area will be included in each trainset.


Table I. Japanese E2-1000 Shinkansen trainsets
Car body length (driving) m 25·7
Car body length (intermediate) m 25·0
Maximum width mm 3 380
Maximum height above rail mm 3 915
Maximum axleload tonnes 12

Table II. Alstom CA250 trainsets
Gauge mm 1 435
Power supply 25 kV 50Hz
Maximum speed km/h 200
Maximum acceleration m/s² 0·6
Car length mm 27 600
Length of eight-car trainset m 211·5
Maximum car width mm 3 200
Floor height above rail mm 1 270
Maximum axleload tonnes 17
Seating: first class 60
second class 562
Wheelchair spaces 1

Table III. Bombardier C2008 trains
Gauge mm 1 435
Power supply 25 kV 50 Hz
Maximum speed km/h 200
Maximum acceleration m/s² 0·6
Overall width mm 3 328
Roof height mm 4 040
Floor height above rail mm 1 250
Maximum axleload tonnes 16
Length of eight-car trainset m 214
Total weight tonnes 420
Number of seats (max) 760
Toilets per trainset 14


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Old May 8th, 2006, 04:06 AM   #193
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delivery of Shinkansen trains to China.
http://www.h2.dion.ne.jp/~dajf/byunbyun/news.htm
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That's cool. Was there any train operations to/out of Tibet before?
This is a NEW RAILWAY!
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Old May 11th, 2006, 01:36 AM   #195
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delivery of Shinkansen trains to China.
http://www.h2.dion.ne.jp/~dajf/byunbyun/news.htm
from ^ that site.
"In a low-key affair designed not to inflame popular anti-Japanese sentiment in China"

No wonder most Chinese haven't heard about this story, its a big contrast when Taiwan received its first Shinkansen. So how are these new Chinese shinkansen compared with those of Taiwan?

Good news that China is accelerating its High speed rail development, I believe in 10 yrs time China will have some of the most interesting high speed trains in the world due to its procurement from France,Japan plus locally built ones. China will have a huge array of trains with different designs and styles hopefully it'll be as interesting as those of JR.

Oh btw, does anybody know what made the Chinese choose to use Japanese built trains? I thought they were after the new TGVs.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 01:38 AM   #196
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What is that train on the right? Looks aggressive.

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They look pretty good....but there is just something about them
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I thought they were after the new TGVs.
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China cut the cake and let several countries share a bit, it is good for bargaining the price. The new TGV will be used in the second stage.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 01:51 PM   #199
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What is that train on the right? Looks aggressive.

The factory is Kawasaki Heavy Industries in Kobe.

and the right train is one of Japan's newest Shinkansen series, Fastech 360Z.
(operation speed is 360km/h)

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