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Old January 5th, 2010, 08:24 PM   #2001
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Old January 6th, 2010, 12:24 AM   #2002
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It's a bit unusual this train runs in a ditch. I'd figure engineers would put train track on elevated base, as it's the norm.

It's only snow right now, what happens if heavy rains falls down continuously for a couple of days? wouldn't the trail track ditch turns into an open storm drain, or a river?
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Old January 6th, 2010, 01:53 PM   #2003
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CSR submited the best bid in the tender for 11 locos to haul Bombardier double deckers in push-pull service operated by Koleje Mazowieckie (Poland). Last year CNR signed a deal with PKP Cargo to build freight cars in Poland. I wonder if it opens the gate to the CEE markets for both companies. And where will they be 10 years from now
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Old January 6th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #2004
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Any recent news on China's Zefiro? I tried finding it online its all dated info.


For now this is the prototype model for developing the zefiro train it's derive from CRH1 and this train called CRH1E for zefiro prototype model.
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Old January 6th, 2010, 07:42 PM   #2005
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For now this is the prototype model for developing the zefiro train it's derive from CRH1 and this train called CRH1E for zefiro prototype model.
This must be the 250 as the nose of the train doesn't seem as enlongated like the 380. But anyways thanks for the post, we definitely need more updates on these Zefiros
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Old January 6th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #2006
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The order for Zefiro 380s was put in September 2009 and deliveries will start in 2012. So the only possible news that we can have is that they are actually being produced... we'll see some test models early (late 2010?) perhaps?
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Old January 7th, 2010, 08:51 PM   #2007
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China will invest CNą823.5 billion to start 70 new railway projects in 2010

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On January 7 from the national railway work conference, it was informed arrangements for 2010, all railway investment in fixed assets 823.5 billion yuan, of which 700 billion yuan investment in capital construction, planning laying 3690 kilometers of new track, 3150 kilometers of double-track, put 4613 kilometers of new lines, 3438 kilometers of double-track, 6401 kilometers of electrified railway into operation. By the end of 2010, China's total mileage of railways in operation to exceed 90 thousand kilometers.

Faced the daunting task of building, the Ministry of Railways requested the construction management, design, construction, supervision and other units, strengthen organization and leadership, according to quality, safety, duration, investment efficiency, environmental protection and technological innovation, "Six in One" and the construction of green rails requirements, high standards, high efficiency and high quality construction projects to organize for the "Eleventh Five-Year Plan" draw to a successful conclusion.

- Increase the intensity of the project preparatory work. Arrangements this year, 70 new projects have been approved in the first half to complete the project's feasibility study for approval; unallocated project's completion in the first quarter of project approval and the completion of feasibility study approved in the third quarter for the early construction. To further refine the project preliminary work mechanism, increase communication and coordination with national authorities give full play to the advantages of local governments to speed up the progress of project approval.

Make overall arrangements for survey and design strength of major technology programs do a good job comparison and selection, preliminary design and construction drawing review, construction organization of programming work to improve the quality and efficiency of survey and design. Speed up parepare of Beijing - Shenyang, Shijiazhuang - Jinan, Zhengzhou - Xuzhou, Xi'an - Chengdu, Baoji - Lanzhou, Changsha - Kunming, Chengdu - Chongqing, Chengdu - Guiyang, Huangshan - Hangzhou passenger line, as well as Chongqing - Guiyang Railway 10 major projects preliminary work to ensure that during construction. According to long-term railway network plan, in-depth investigations and studies, the preparation of the completion of the railway for "Twelfth Five-Year Plan".

- Speed up construction of key projects under construction. High-speed rail and inter-regional lines as the focus, scientific organization construction, full control of a key node in duration, co-ordinate arrangements for passenger station and the hub construction, matching points and lines to promote high quality and efficient completion of the annual investment plans.

This year, the Beijing - Shanghai, Harbin - Dalian, Beijing - Shijiazhuang, Shijiazhuang - Wuhan high-speed railway will enter ballastless track laying phase. Guiyang - Guangzhou, Nanning - Guangzhou, Lanzhou - Chongqing, Chongqing - Lichuan, the Lanzhou - Xinjiang second double-track project will enter tunnel construction phase of the complex geology. Shanghai - Nanjing, Guangzhou - Zhuhai, Guangzhou - Shenzhen (Hong Kong), Hainan East Loop Line, Taiyuan - Zhongwei (Yinchuan), Yichang - Wanzhou, Changchun - Jilin, Chengdu - Dujiangyan and other projects will be opened to traffic. Datong - Xian, Hangzhou - Changsha, Hefei - Fuzhou passenger line, as well as Yunnan - Guangxi Railway, Central and Southern Shanxi Railway, these new projects, will get a good grasp of construction organizations, the land acquisition demolition, material supply and so on.

- To greatly enhance the level of construction management. To further strengthen the organizational leadership of the railway construction, the Railway Bureau bear the main responsibility for construction management, give full play to the supervisory role of the Ministry of Railways professional departments do a good job co-ordination to achieve the right to close management of key projects. Active use of new materials, new equipment, new technology and construction of complete sets of technology, improve the energy efficiency of railway construction environmental standards and measures.

By the end of 2012, China's railway operating mileage will reach more than 110,000 kilometers, of which high-speed passenger line will be reached 13,000 km, electrified rate and double-track rate both more than 50%, and built more than 800 new passenger stations.

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Old January 7th, 2010, 09:42 PM   #2008
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and yet our great Ontario has been planning to build the not even 1000km Monteral - Windsor highspeed corridor for the past 15 years.
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Old January 8th, 2010, 12:14 AM   #2009
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and yet our great Ontario has been planning to build the not even 1000km Monteral - Windsor highspeed corridor for the past 15 years.
The sad part is that if it ever gets built (thats if they make it through another couple rounds of EAs and economic feasibility studies ) its not going to be viable to the general public if Via Rail gets its hands on it
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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:42 AM   #2010
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High-speed rail network set to take global lead

By Xin Dingding (China Daily)
Updated: 2010-01-08

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Workers at the Lushan station in Jiangxi province lay tracks for the express rail running between provincial capital Nanchang and Jiujiang on Monday. The line is China's second inter-city express rail after the Beijing-Tianjin link. [China Daily]

China is well on its way to becoming the high-speed railway capital of the world, with 33,000 km of these railways currently under construction and about 70 projects slated to launch this year. By the end of 2012, China's high-speed railway is expected to account for half of the world's total length. Currently, 2.1 trillion yuan ($300 billion) worth of rail construction projects are under way.

In the next three years, 26,000 km of new lines, including 9,200 km of high-speed lines, will be put into operation to ease the pressure on the country's overburdened rail network, said Liu Zhijun, Minister of Railways. China's dominance in the high-speed railway market is remarkable, said Yang Hao, professor in railway transport with Beijing Jiaotong University. "No matter the length of high-speed railways, or the operation speed of our high-speed trains, China now dwarfs other countries," Yang said. Though many of the advanced technologies used in high-speed railways were imported from France, Japan and Germany, "China has learned them fast, and China also has its advantage in industrial integration", he said.

By 2013, 800 bullet trains will be churned out to zip through the cities at a speed of at least 250 km/h, the minister said. Also, a new-generation high-speed train, which insiders said is built to run up to 380 km/h on the future Beijing-Shanghai high-speed link, is also expected to roll off the production line and complete comprehensive tests this year, he said. The country should also clinch more deals in the global railway market this year, the minister said yesterday. This is the first time the goal is put into the minister's annual work report, which reviews achievements in the past year and sets new goals for next year.

Liu urged various railway enterprises to go out as a whole to establish and promote China's rail standards and forge its rail brand. "Based on our technology and industrial integration advantages, we should try to boost international cooperation this year," he said.

China launched its first 350 km/h high-speed railway between Beijing and Tianjin in August 2008 before the Beijing Olympics. Late last month, China's first long-distance high-speed rail, the 1,068-km Wuhan-Guangzhou railway, was also put into operation. So far, State leaders and delegates from more than 100 countries have visited the Beijing-Tianjin high-speed rail, and many have expressed interest in cooperating with China to build high-speed rail. Last year, China signed memoranda of understanding with several countries, including the United States and Russia, in high-speed rail cooperation.

Experts said China stepping ahead of these countries in developing low-emission high-speed railways could help it attract potential partners.
The cooperation is also "never one way", as both sides can benefit from the cooperation, Yang said.

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Old January 8th, 2010, 06:53 AM   #2011
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I think China should paint the trains in different colors for different model or route or at least put the model number more obvious or name on the train. Its good for marketing and better recognition.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 09:25 PM   #2012
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China's High-Speed-Rail Revolution: Dedicated lines are the key to record-breaking speeds.

Monday, January 11, 2010
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China has begun operating what is, by several measures, the world's fastest rail line: a dedicated 968-kilometer line linking Wuhan, in the heart of central China, to Guangzhou, on the southeastern coast. In trials, the "WuGuang" line trains (locally built variants of Japan's Shinkansen and Germany's InterCity Express high-speed trains) clocked peak speeds of up to 394 kilometers per hour (or 245 miles per hour). They have also recorded an average speed of 312 kph in nonstop runs four times daily since the WuGuang's December 26 launch, slashing travel time from Wuhan to Guangzhou from 10.5 hours to less than three.

WuGuang's speed blows away the reigning champion: France's TGV, which runs from Lorraine to Champagne and averages 272 kph. It also bests China's first high-speed train, the Beijing-to-Tianjin trains that average 230 kph, as well as Shanghai's magnetically levitated airport shuttle trains that can hit 430 kph but average less than 251 kph. Rail experts say the builders of the new WuGuang line deserve more bragging rights than the trains' European and Japanese designers.

"The high-speed rail technology implemented in China is not that much different from the TGV, Germany's ICE, and the Shinkansen," says Rongfang Liu, a rail expert at the New Jersey Institute of Technology in Newark. What is notable, she and others say, is that unlike many high-speed lines that repurpose older tracks, this one was designed from the ground up for very high-speed operation over hundreds of kilometers. Bridges and tunnels, as well as the concrete bed beneath the track, have been designed to safely rocket passengers around, through, or over the natural and man-made obstacles that would otherwise force the trains to slow down.

Plenty more speedy lines are coming in China under an ambitious build-out initiated in 2006 by China's Ministry of Railways, and accelerated with government stimulus funds. A two-trillion-yuan ($293 billion) plan envisions 16,000 kilometers of dedicated high-speed rail lines connecting all of China's major cities by 2020. The first East-West segment--a link from Xi'an to Zhengzhou--could begin operating as early as this month, and work is underway to extend the Beijing-Tianjin line southward to Shanghai by 2012. WuGuang, meanwhile, is expected to expand northward to Beijing and South to Hong Kong by 2013. "Over the next five years there'll be more high-speed rail added in China than the rest of the world combined," says Keith Dierkx, director of IBM's Beijing-based Global Rail Innovation Center.

High-speed rail is seen as a clean way to boost the expansion of China's transportation system, according to Dierkx. Dedicated lines will help meet rail demand, which is expected to more than triple to five billion passengers per year by 2020. And building these lines is seen as preferable to further expanding reliance on imported oil for automobiles and airplanes. Dierkx says dedicated high-speed rail should also improve freight transportation by easing congestion on conventional rail lines.

Building fast lines requires civil engineering works on a massive scale. WuGuang has 625 bridges with a combined length of 362 kilometers, and 221 tunnels with a combined length of 177 kilometers, contributing to a total construction cost of 116 billion yuan ($17 billion). The 1,300-kilometer Beijing-to-Shanghai line will cost an estimated 221 billion yuan--more than the Three Gorges Dam hydroelectric project.

However, experts say part of the high cost will be paid back through lower operating costs. Rather than laying rail on wood or concrete sleepers set into crushed rock, the Chinese rails are almost exclusively set into beds of concrete slabs designed by German rail engineering firms RAIL.ONE and Max B÷gl. This eliminates damage to the track and rolling stock caused by flying stones lifted by turbulence from the high-speed trains. It also reduces wear on the wheels from shifting tracks.

Monitoring and control systems are another up-front investment that is both a precondition to high-speed operation and a cost-saver, providing the confidence in safety needed to drive trains fast. "If a train is going 300 to 350 kph, the consequences of safety failures become very critical," says Dierkx.

Dierkx says that systems under development by his Beijing-based center include train-mounted laser scanners to observe track conditions; real-time systems to predict failures; sensors on bridges and tunnels; and dynamic scheduling systems to ensure that trains are available when needed and have a free path to operate at top speeds. Dierkx, Liu, and others say the U.S. could ultimately benefit from China's investment in high-speed rail, because it should bring down the cost of creating the type of dedicated high-speed rail lines that the U.S. still lacks. "The U.S. is going to be able to capture the advantage of a lot of the innovation taking place globally," says Dierkx.
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Old January 18th, 2010, 02:40 AM   #2013
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Guangzhou-Nanning High-Speed Rail accident

Mudslide buries 2 in high-speed rail tunnel project

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A mudslide buried two workers and caused serious injuries to three others in a high-speed railway tunnel under construction in Yun'an County of Guangdong Province at 9 am Saturday, Nanfang Daily reported.

The accident happened when workers were measuring the water flow in the tunnel, which is part of a high speed railway project linking Guangzhou and Nanning. Mud spilled out over an area of 200 meters, according to an officer responsible for the project.

An ambulance reached the site Sunday morning, but the two buried workers still had not been found by press time.
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Old January 22nd, 2010, 01:28 PM   #2014
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How long would a train ride from Shanghai to Chongqing in September take?

In the future i would like to stay one month in China taking the high speed trains to visit the most famous cities in of that country.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #2016
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China to invest 823.5 bln yuan ($121 bln) in railways in 2010

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In 2010, China will launch 70 new railway projects and allocate a total of 823.5 billion yuan to fixed asset investments in the railway industry, of which 700 billion yuan will be invested in infrastructure construction, reporters learned from the recently held National Railway Working Conference. There are plans to build 3,690 kilometers of new railway tracks and 3,150 kilometers of double-track lines.

The total length of China's operational railways will exceed 90,000 kilometers by the end of 2010, and 1,669 kilometers of passenger railway lines will be built this year. By then, China's high-speed railway mileage will reach nearly 4,000 kilometers. A railway transportation system featuring high density, speed and capacity, and low energy consumption will redefine the lives of ordinary residents and regional economic landscapes.

It is estimated that China's railway passenger volume in 2010 will reach 1.64 billion, an increase of 7.6 percent year-on-year. The total railway freight volume will reach 3.5 billion tons, an increase of 5.4 percent year-on-year. The total revenue of railway transportation will reach 42.5 billion yuan, an increase of 12.5 percent year-on-year.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 05:45 AM   #2017
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Wow! Where the heck does China get all the money to finance all these infrastructure projects? It simply astounds me.
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I believe it's part of the 4 trillion yuan economic stimulus package.
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Old January 26th, 2010, 08:06 AM   #2019
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Owning most of the USA national debt as well as large amounts of foreign currency and low historic borrowing gives them the muscle, though their is the danger that it could build up debt eventually. They this month ordered domestic banks to cut back personal lending a bit because they were worried personal debt was rising quickly but on the other hand didnt want to curtail it completley and risk the 10%+ growth rate their economy is based around. If they went down to 2/3% growth like most western economies then they would be unable to finance their infrastructure investment from future tax revenues, the cutback in projects would lead to unemployment and yet more economic slowdown and potentially a depression. They need to maintain 10% growth rate just to balance the books.
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It is estimated that China's railway passenger volume in 2010 will reach 1.64 billion, an increase of 7.6 percent year-on-year.
Which means that there is still room for a huge increase. If the Chinese were to take trains as often as the Japanese or the Swiss do the number of yearly passengers would bo around to order of 30 - 40 billion.

No wonder the Chinese are building like crazy.
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