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Old June 22nd, 2010, 09:52 AM   #2861
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the Shanghai-Nanjing high-speed rail line which will start operating on July 1 after two years of construction.

The bullet train, which has a top speed of 350 kilometers per hour, will connect Shanghai to Nanjing, capital of neighboring Jiangsu Province 300 kilometers away, in a little less than an hour.
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The Shanghai-Nanjing line is expected to cut travel time between the two cities from more than two hours currently to under an hour.
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The rail line will start operation on July 1 after two years of construction. The bullet train, with a top speed of 350 kilometers per hour, will cut the trip between the two cities to about an hour from more than two hours.
How many stations are there between Hongqiao and Nanjing?
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 04:47 PM   #2862
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They need to finish that Maglev link to the Hongqiao transit hub. It really does make sense to do it.
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 01:22 AM   #2863
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Thanks for posting these pictures. Any information on the forum on date or location where the pictures were taken?
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 01:39 AM   #2864
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How many stations are there between Hongqiao and Nanjing?
Unfortunately, I can't read Chinese but this map probably provides the answer to your question.

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Shanghai - Nanjing Express rail
There're four large stations in between: Zhengjiang, Changzhou, Wuxi and Suzhou.
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 02:10 AM   #2865
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I already want to see China just because of the infrastructure
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 07:13 AM   #2866
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There's any news about CRH380 A or update about this train?
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Old June 23rd, 2010, 04:31 PM   #2867
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There's any news about CRH380 A or update about this train?
Originally it was believed that CSR's modified E2 version was going to be called CRH380A, but CNR's reverse engineered version of Velaro CN claimed that title in a public unveiling ceremony recently, so who knows what's going on with CSR's version.
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Old June 25th, 2010, 06:11 PM   #2868
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Fares set for fast Shanghai-Nanjing rail

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2010-6-24

STANDARD tickets for the highly anticipated Shanghai-Nanjing high-speed rail line have been priced at 146 yuan, almost a 50 percent rise compared with current bullet trains for the same trip. Shanghai railway authorities released the railway's ticket prices and operation models today. The railway, with a top speed of 350 kilometers per hour, will start operation from July 1, connecting the city to Nanjing in 73 minutes. People can buy the tickets tomorrow from 8am.

The trains, identified by the leading letter "G," will operate both at city's Hongqiao Transport Hub and Shanghai Railway Station. The fast trains that now run between the two cities, with the leading letter "D," travel at 200 to 250 kilometers per hour. Standard tickets cost 93 yuan and first class 112 yuan. About 200 of the new "G" trains will come and go from the Hongqiao hub from 6:06am to 8:27pm every day starting on July 1. In addition, 44 of the current "D" trains will remain on the schedule.

Also on July 1, Metro Line 2's Hongqiao Railway Station inside the Hongqiao Transport Hub will open to the public, allowing passengers to leave the subway and board the train after 10 minutes' walk. The Metro already stops at another part of the hub to take passengers to the Hongqiao airport.

Although the fast trains are taking center stage on the Shanghai-Nanjing route, some regular-speed trains, with leading letters "T" and "K," will remain in service. These regular-speed trains may not be enough to allay the fears of low-income riders that they'll be priced out of train travel. Sun Zhang, a professor of railway with local Tongji University, said the price is likely to change after a period of operation in response to the market reactions.

Rail officials said the bullet train trend represents the future as rail capacities can be increased greatly by the high-speed trains. Tao Liping, a railway spokesman, said the "higher price means better service and a faster journey." Tao said the operation model of the intercity high-speed railways would be "more like city buses" with interval times of five minutes during peak hours. "You have to admit," said spokesman Tao. "Here comes the high-speed rail era."
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Old June 25th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #2869
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The railway, with a top speed of 350 kilometers per hour, will start operation from July 1, connecting the city to Nanjing in 73 minutes. People can buy the tickets tomorrow from 8am.
So 1 hour 13 minutes. Does the train make all 26 intermediate stops in that time?
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Old June 26th, 2010, 01:29 AM   #2870
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some pictures will follow soon, hopefully
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Old June 26th, 2010, 02:28 AM   #2871
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So 1 hour 13 minutes. Does the train make all 26 intermediate stops in that time?
1 hour 13 minutes is non-stop time. This line was designed for 250 km/h running, and later changed to 300 km/h after the construction had began. It was changed to 350 km/h a few weeks before the opening because the ministry of railway want to set a higher price. Very few sections support 350 km/h of running.
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Old June 26th, 2010, 09:46 AM   #2872
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1 hour 13 minutes is non-stop time. This line was designed for 250 km/h running, and later changed to 300 km/h after the construction had began. It was changed to 350 km/h a few weeks before the opening because the ministry of railway want to set a higher price. Very few sections support 350 km/h of running.
Pushing further against the prescribed rail speed limit is a suicide! in this case an accident is inevitable. I don't wanna see this scenario happening
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Old June 26th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #2873
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1 hour 13 minutes is non-stop time.
Shall there be any stopping trains, too?
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Old June 26th, 2010, 01:41 PM   #2874
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Pushing further against the prescribed rail speed limit is a suicide! in this case an accident is inevitable. I don't wanna see this scenario happening
Not really, most railways in the world operate at speeds higher than their design speed. The WCML in the UK was built for about 50mph, and currently operates at 125mph.
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Old June 27th, 2010, 04:24 AM   #2875
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What are the main differences between tracks designed for 250km, and 350km?
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Old June 27th, 2010, 04:33 AM   #2876
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What are the main differences between tracks designed for 250km, and 350km?
Many.... But the most important one is 7000m turn radius of 350km/h ones.
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Old June 27th, 2010, 04:33 AM   #2877
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What are the main differences between tracks designed for 250km, and 350km?
Minimum curve radius, distance between two parallel tracks, and etc.

The line uses existing old stations, which are mostly in the center of their cities. Trains can't run at full speed because new tracks have to be laid mostly parallel to existing ones in cities, otherwise the cost would be very high. Furthermore, a few stations on the line only have two tracks, that means trains must decelerate when passing them.
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What are the main differences between tracks designed for 250km, and 350km?
250 km/h requires a minimum curve radius of 2500 m.
350 km/h requires a minimum curve radius of 7000 m.

Plus, the distance between parallel tracks must be wider to cope with greater air turbulence.

Both increased curve radius and further separation of tracks cost more money.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 10:20 AM   #2879
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High-speed rail to link Shanghai, east China cities

SHANGHAI (Xinhua) -- Tickets went on sale Friday for a high-speed rail service linking Shanghai and Nanjing, part of a growing rail network to boost the development of cities around China's financial metropolis.

The trains will shuttle between Shanghai and Nanjing, capital of Jiangsu Province, at a speed of 350 km per hour, faster than a Formula One racing car from July 1, said a statement from Shanghai Railway Bureau.

The 200-meter-long CRH3 (China Railways High-speed) train has eight carriages and 557 seats. About 120 shuttles are scheduled everyday, linking Shanghai, Nanjing and six other cities along the route.

Tickets for the full journey between Shanghai and Nanjing are priced at 146 yuan (21.47 U.S. dollars) for second class seats and 233 yuan for first class.

The railway is expected to enhance the economic ties between Shanghai and nearby cities.

A businessman surnamed Wang said his company's factories are in Nanjing while the headquarters is in Shanghai.

"I heard it will take only 73 minutes to get to Shanghai by the high-speed train, which means I can make a shuttle between the two cities in a morning. It feels like travelling within Shanghai."

With more convenient transport links, more people are choosing to live in less expensive cities near Shanghai while working in the metropolis.

Wang Huaping and his wife are among the commuters. With a monthly income of 20,000 yuan, they spent about 1.16 million yuan on a flat of 137 square meters in Kunshan City, a stop on the high-speed railway.

"The same amount of money could only buy a flat of only 40 square meters in Shanghai. After the high-speed train begins, it will take a little more than 10 minutes to get to Shanghai. It's no different from living in Shanghai," Wang said.

The rail network around Shanghai is expected to get a further boost after the central government approved the construction of a maglev railway linking Shanghai and Hangzhou, capital of east China's Zhejiang Province, in March.
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Beijing-Shanghai Route Bids Farewell to Green-hulled Train



The only green-hulled train running between Beijing and Shanghai retired on Monday, giving way to more advanced trains with better facilities, Beijing News says.

On Sunday, a green-hulled train set off from Beijing to Shanghai for the last time. For 32 years, the train that connects China's two largest economic hubs runs 1,463 kilometers in 22 hours and 43 minutes, stopping at 24 stations along the way. Traveling the full length requires a mere 88 yuan, or about 13 US dollars.

Since Monday, the green-hulled train running on coal will be replaced by a more advanced air-conditioned train running on electricity. The schedule remains entirely unaltered, but the traveling experience will be improved with better facilities. The travel expense will rise to 158 yuan. In addition, 5 hard berth sleepers will be added to the new train, the upper, middle and lower berths costing 285 yuan, 296 yuan and 306 yuan respectively.

On Sunday when the Shanghai-bound train was in service for the last time, many fans of the rail boarded the train. They recorded the historical journey by taking photos and recording their own video clips.

The green-hulled trains, named for their green exterior, are the most representative symbol of China's old generation passenger trains. Manufactured decades ago, they are modestly equipped and in dilapidated shape. But they are still favored by students, migrant workers and other economically underprivileged passengers for their modest cost.

Since the 1990s, China's railway authorities have launched a number of innovative ideas for the railway system. The process has seen most of the green-hulled trains being replaced by more advanced ones. Meanwhile, the cost of traveling has gone up as well.
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