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Old September 13th, 2010, 11:47 AM   #3281
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Old September 13th, 2010, 11:59 AM   #3282
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Their CRH5 product (ETR without tilt) is an under-performer in the Chinese market. The trains have been relegated to low temperate operating conditions. Why this happens is beyond me?! I suspect political motives behind this as well.

You see components (even if its only initial shell design) of the E2 (CRH2), Velaros (CRH3), Reginas (CRH1) being modified for 380km/h operation, yet the Alstom product doesn’t make it through….
Because Alstom offered a Pendolino-derived trainset instead of the AGV. The CRH5 operates on the 200-250 km/h network, i think.
the CRH5 has it's own advantage compare with other CRH trains, it works well under low temperatures, so it is mainly served in Northeast China and mountain area

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ALSTOM , CNR & SEC Agree to Jointly Contribute to the Development of Urban Mass Transit in China
09/13/2010 | 03:45 am

Alstom (Paris:ALO) signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with two Chinese companies - CNR Corporation Ltd., (CNR) and Shanghai Electric Group Co., Ltd., (SEC) - to form a strategic partnership and jointly develop new markets for mass transit products. The agreement was signed in the presence of Dominique Bussereau, France's Secretary of State for Transport.

Under the terms of the agreement, Alstom, together with CNR and SEC, will expand the capabilities and competitiveness of their existing two joint ventures – Shanghai Alstom Transport Co., Ltd. (SATCO) and Shanghai Alstom Transport Electrical Equipment Co., Ltd. (SATEE). The collaboration will allow the parties to accelerate the development of complete rolling stock solutions and railway traction systems by the two JVs for mass transit projects. The long-term goal of the partnership is to give SATCO and SATEE the ability to design, build and commercialize new urban transit products for the Chinese market as well as for targeted export markets.

Philippe Mellier, President of Alstom Transport, declared: China represents one of the most important markets for Alstom Transport. We are committed to succeed in this competitive market by relying on our manufacturing footprint in the country and building the right partnerships.

The signing of today's MoU is another milestone in our localization drive and commitment in China, said Dominique Pouliquen, SVP, Alstom Transport Asia Pacific and Alstom China Country President.

As a world leader in rail transport, Alstom is well positioned to contribute to China's development of urban mass transit. Alstom Transport's presence in China dates to 1958 and includes 5 joint ventures, 8 project sites and 3 industrial partnerships (metro, locomotives, EMUs). With offices in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Hong Kong, Alstom Transport employs over 1,500 people in China.
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Old September 13th, 2010, 03:36 PM   #3283
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Official advertisement of the Changjiu ICL which set to open by September 2010
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Old September 13th, 2010, 05:06 PM   #3284
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Old September 14th, 2010, 12:07 PM   #3285
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the Changjiu Intercity line will open on September 20,2010, according to Nanchang Railway Bureau. and will service 17 trains, 9 between Nanchang-Jiujiang and 8 between Nanchang-Wuchang/Wuhan/Hankou

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Old September 14th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #3286
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These CRHs are amazingly fast!
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Old September 14th, 2010, 08:36 PM   #3287
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the CRH5 has it's own advantage compare with other CRH trains, it works well under low temperatures, so it is mainly served in Northeast China and mountain area

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Old September 15th, 2010, 02:45 AM   #3288
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September 14, first carry passenger test run at Changjiu ICL,

CRH1A (train number D6373) takes 45m to finish the 135km journey (Average speed 180km/h), top speed reach 222km/h
CRH2A (train number D6346) takes 43m at the same line (Average speed 188.3 km/h), top speed 250km/h









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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:28 AM   #3289
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Thank You for posting about this beautifull CRH Train.
China, the sleeping Giant awakes!
Fastest train that I ever drove here in Western Australia was 120KMH!
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:15 PM   #3290
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the MOR of China had ordered 140 CRH380A trains, 80 CRH380B trainsand 240 CRH380C trains, firstly 40 CRH380A & 11 CRH380C trains will come into service in Jinghu PDL. these trains are designed for the Beijing-Shanghai PDL and other newcomer 350km/h lines, but rumor says CRH380A will come into service at the Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL which is set to open at October 1, 2010 as it's first Carry Passenger operating, in other hand, the CRH380B, which is a Bombardier design, will come into service at 2012.

at 350km/h level trains, the MOR had offered 60 CRH3C trains,

at 300 km/h level, the MOR had offered 60 CRH2C trains

at 250km/h level, the MOR offered 320 trains in total, 120 CRH1A, CRH1B & CRH1E, 110 CRH2A,CRH2B & CRH2E, 90 CRH5A

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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:55 PM   #3291
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what a small market :p
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Old September 17th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #3292
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that is just a ridiculous amount of high speed trains
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:38 AM   #3293
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according to Rumors in CHinese forum, the CRH380A-6001 reaches test speed of 440km/h during it's test run at Jiaoji PDL!
seems people are not suprised it can reach 440km/h at all, they are just suprised it can reach that speed on Jiaoji line

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It was tested on Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL, wasn't it?
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #3294
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that is just a ridiculous amount of high speed trains
why ridiculous here?
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Old September 17th, 2010, 10:22 AM   #3295
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Ridiculous in this context means stupendous or huge.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #3296
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Ridiculous in this context means stupendous or huge.
Thanks, now I understand
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Old September 17th, 2010, 04:30 PM   #3297
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This photo takes on Huhang PDL on September 14, it shows a CRH380A test run at a station

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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:55 PM   #3298
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Very nice looking train!
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Old September 19th, 2010, 03:10 AM   #3299
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Xiamen Railway Station. These pics haven't been posted before I think. By xiaomianlong














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Old September 19th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #3300
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the MOR of China had ordered 140 CRH380A trains, 80 CRH380B trainsand 240 CRH380C trains, firstly 40 CRH380A & 11 CRH380C trains will come into service in Jinghu PDL. these trains are designed for the Beijing-Shanghai PDL and other newcomer 350km/h lines, but rumor says CRH380A will come into service at the Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL which is set to open at October 1, 2010 as it's first Carry Passenger operating, in other hand, the CRH380B, which is a Bombardier design, will come into service at 2012.

at 350km/h level trains, the MOR had offered 60 CRH3C trains,

at 300 km/h level, the MOR had offered 60 CRH2C trains

at 250km/h level, the MOR offered 320 trains in total, 120 CRH1A, CRH1B & CRH1E, 110 CRH2A,CRH2B & CRH2E, 90 CRH5A
Chinese MOR CRH trains order timetable

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Date         Factory                  Class     Type    Quantity       Amount
2004-10-10   Alstom & CNR Changchun  250km/h   CRH5A      60       620 million ERU
2004-10-12   Bombadier & BST         250km/h   CRH1A      20       350 million USD
2004-10-12   Kawasaki  & CSR Sifang  250km/h   CRH2A      60     9,300 million RMB
2005-05-31   Bombadier & BST         250km/h   CRH1A      20       350 million USD
Jun 2005     CSR Sifang              300km/h   CRH2C      60     8,200 million RMB
Nov 2005     Siemens & CNR Tangshan  350km/h   CRH3C      60    13,000 million RMB
2007-10-31   BST                     250km/h   CRH1B & 1E 20+20  1,000 million ERU
Nov 2007     CSR Sifang              250km/h   CRH2B      10     1,200 million RMB
Nov 2007     CSR Sifang              250km/h   CRH2E       6       900 million RMB
Dec 2008     CSR Sifang              250km/h   CRH2E      14     2,100 million RMB
Jun 2009     CNR Changchun           250km/h   CRH5A      30     4,800 million RMB
2009-03-16   CNR Tangshan            380km/h   CRH380C    70    27,440 million RMB
2009-03-16   CNR Changchun           380km/h   CRH380C    30    11,760 million RMB
2009-09-28   CSR Sifang              380km/h   CRH380A   140    45,000 million RMB
2009-09-28   Bombadier & BST         380km/h   CRH380B    80    27,400 million RMB
2009-09-28   CNR Changchun           380km/h   CRH380C   120    23,500 million RMB
2009-09-28   CNR Tangshan            380km/h   CRH380C    20     3,920 million RMB
2010-07-16   BST                     250km/h   CRH1A      40     5,200 million RMB
2010-09-14   CSR Sifang              250km/h   CRH2A      20     3,400 million RMB
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