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Old November 4th, 2010, 08:57 PM   #3721
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HSR lines that planned to open before 2012


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25. Xiashen PDL       2011/December      550 km      250km/h
I gather that Ningbo-Wenzhou, Wenzhou-Fuzhou and Fuzhou-Xiamen high speed railways are also limited to 250 km/h.

How long does it now take for a train to travel Ningbo-Xiamen?
When, in December 2011, Xiamen-Shenzhen railway shall open, how long shall it take to travel Ningbo-Xiamen-Shenzhen?
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Old November 5th, 2010, 06:15 AM   #3722
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Ningbo - Xiamen train schedule

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I gather that Ningbo-Wenzhou, Wenzhou-Fuzhou and Fuzhou-Xiamen high speed railways are also limited to 250 km/h.

How long does it now take for a train to travel Ningbo-Xiamen?
When, in December 2011, Xiamen-Shenzhen railway shall open, how long shall it take to travel Ningbo-Xiamen-Shenzhen?
See below for the Ningbo - Xiamen current schedule based on travelchinaguide.com:

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Perhaps someone can comment on the future schedule once the line between Xiamen & Shenzhen is completed.
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Old November 5th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #3723
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HSR lines that planned to open before 2012


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26. Hangyong PDL      2011/December      149 km      350km/h
27. Ninghang PDL      2011/December      249 km      350km/h
Forming a high-speed railway Nanjing-Huzhou-Hangzhou-Ningbo, avoiding a detour via Shanghai.

When in December 2011, the railway Beijing-Nanjing-Shanghai shall be open already, railway Nanjing-Hangzhou-Ningbo shall open and railway Ningbo-Wenzhou-Fuzhou-Xiamen shall be open, how long shall Beijing-Xiamen via Hangzhou take? And since in December 2011, railway Beijing-Wuhan shall open, railway Wuhan-Guangzhou shall be open, railway Guangzhou-Shenzhen shall be open and railway Shenzhen-Xiamen shall open, how long shall Beijing-Xiamen via Guangzhou take?
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Old November 6th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #3724
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China to Invest 3.5 Trillion Yuan ($525.9 billion) in Railways over Next Five Years

2010-11-06 CRIENGLISH.com Zhangxu

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The Chinese government plans to invest 3.5 trillion yuan (US$525.9 billion) in railway construction during the 12th Five-Year Plan program (2011-2015).


The photo taken on Oct. 14, 2010 shows a high-speed train in Xi'an railway station of northwest China's Shaanxi province. [Photo: CRIENGLISH.com/Zhang Xu]

The Chinese government plans to invest 3.5 trillion yuan (US$525.9 billion) in railway construction during the 12th Five-Year Plan program (2011-2015), the "Economic Observer" reports.

An unnamed official with the Ministry of Railways told the newspaper that the government would invest an average of 700 billion yuan annually in the coming five years for a total increase of 1.3 trillion yuan compared with the amount it has invested during the current five-year plan period.

According to the ministry's plan, future railway construction will focus on the refurbishment of old railways and the building of high-speed rail lines.

In 2015, the length of railways in China will total more than 120,000 kilometers and include 30,000 kilometers of new track.

The report also indicated that more local governments and enterprises would participate in railway investment during the next five years.

A second unnamed ministry official said most railway construction during the 12th Five-Year Plan period would consist of provincial or lower-level projects that directly promoted local economic development, so that local governments would be willing to become the main investors and encourage competent companies to provide financial support for the railways as well.

The official also said local government funds would account for 60 percent of the county's total railway investment during the next five years.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #3725
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Old November 6th, 2010, 05:56 PM   #3726
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With 1.3 billion population, best place to spend money is education and infrastructure.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 07:01 PM   #3727
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In 2015, the length of railways in China will total more than 120,000 kilometers and include 30,000 kilometers of new track.
Where are more than 90 000 km old track?
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Old November 6th, 2010, 10:38 PM   #3728
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Where are more than 90 000 km old track?
they are existing around the country.
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Old November 6th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #3729
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they are existing around the country.
Two weeks ago, the length of existing track was quoted as 86 000 km. Have more than 4000 km been built since?
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:16 AM   #3730
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it was 86000 in 2008 too
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:48 AM   #3731
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it was 86000 in 2008 too
So, precisely how much track does China have as of now, November 2010?
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #3732
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With 1.3 billion population, best place to spend money is education and infrastructure.
I´d say: With 1 or 1.300 million population, best place to spend money is education and infrastructure.
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #3733
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Hi, Luli Pop!
Save your talking by posting pictures, got it!
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Old November 7th, 2010, 01:46 AM   #3734
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I wish I could!

I´m 19.246 km away from Beijing!
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Old November 7th, 2010, 11:51 PM   #3735
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So, precisely how much track does China have as of now, November 2010?
original plan puts it to be at 100,000KM by the end of 2010 and 120,000 in 2020. If the 120,000km number is brought up to 2015, then we can at least assume that the 100,000 by the end of 2010 is somewhat concrete.
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Old November 8th, 2010, 05:01 AM   #3736
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Beijing reviews high-speed rail plans
By Jamil Anderlini in Beijing

Published: November 7 2010 19:56 | Last updated: November 7 2010 19:56

China’s Ministry of Railways is conducting a review of the country’s ambitious high-speed rail proposals after an influential state-backed think-tank raised questions about the affordability and practicality of the planned network.

In a report submitted by the China Academy of Science to the State Council, experts urged a rethink of the emphasis on massive infrastructure investment, particularly the bullet train expansion programme.

One of the concerns expressed in the report is the unsustainable level of debt that has propelled rail building projects across the country, particularly since the government launched its stimulus package in late 2008 to combat the effects of the global economic crisis.

The report found that the acceleration of infrastructure investment triggered by the stimulus package had caused a lack of integration between transport services across the country, leaving highways, subways, train stations and airports not properly connected.

Wen Jiabao, China’s premier, has seen the report and asked for further discussion of current high-speed rail plans, say people familiar with the matter.

The review – and possible scaling back – comes as provincial officials appear to have caught bullet train fever.

Local governments have between them asked for Beijing’s permission to expand the high-speed rail network by as much as 80 per cent above the already ambitious approved targets, according to analysts and Chinese media reports.

Under the current plan, the central government has authorised a high-speed network that will reach 16,000km by 2020 and service more than 90 per cent of the population.

But as part of the stimulus the government more than doubled its planned investments in railways for 2009 and 2010 and expected to have 13,000km of high-speed track by the end of 2012. That will give China more high-speed rail capacity – trains that travel at more than 250km an hour – than the rest of the world put together, according to data from the International Union of Railways and Nomura, the investment bank.

But with dozens of new lines scheduled to open in the next two years, the high-speed connections already in operation are being carefully scrutinised.

Critics point out that bullet train services, such as the 1,000km Wuhan to Guangzhou connection that opened this year, are operating at less than half their full capacity and will never make enough money to repay the large bank loans used to build them.

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Old November 8th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #3737
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Discovery: Beijing - Shanghai High Speed Railway and CRH380 trains

http://www.imgo.tv/player/ref_imgo_p...=1&fst=1&pic=0
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Old November 8th, 2010, 09:41 AM   #3738
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Kashgar–Hotan Railway completed

Kahe Railway
- Kashgar to Hotan
- Construction started in 2008
- Completed on November 6, 2010
- Length: 485 km
- Investment: ¥4.639 billion
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Old November 8th, 2010, 10:46 AM   #3739
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Discovery: Beijing - Shanghai High Speed Railway and CRH380 trains

http://www.imgo.tv/player/ref_imgo_p...=1&fst=1&pic=0
Millions and Millions of Gratitude to GreenLion for continuously posting CRH380 development news and
especially this Awesome, Marvelous, Wonderful Hi-Tech video on the creation of CRH380 from start to finish.


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Our Highest Salutations and Big Big Big Time Congratulation to all Engineers and Scientists
in China that are working around the clock to create this Mind Boggling 380 km/hr HST
system breakthrough in such a SHORT -- SHORT time.

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Now we know the reason --- why so far there is no other country in the world that is able to
come close in producing this 380 km/hr HST system (from track to train) at all.


We all know -- a few countries had a 10 --- 20 years head start in terms of acquiring HST technology, .... ....
yet they are not able to create this 380 km/hr HST system.


JOKE: Maybe, some countries will send their Trojan spies to STEAL this CRH380 Hi-Tech
from China like they STOLE China Compass, Gun Powder and Paper technologies.


We know one country (in North America) is begging China to finance and build this
CRH380 system for them, and pay the whole projects in WORTHLESS monopoly money.



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Old November 8th, 2010, 10:51 AM   #3740
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Millions and Millions of Gratitude to GreenLion for continuously posting CRH380 development news and
especially this Awesome, Marvelous, Wonderful Hi-Tech video on the creation of CRH380 from start to finish.


--- ---


Our Highest Salutations and Big Big Big Time Congratulation to all Engineers and Scientists
in China that are working around the clock to create this Mind Boggling 380 km/hr HST
system breakthrough in such a SHORT -- SHORT time.

---------------------------------------------

Now we know the reason --- why so far there is no other country in the world that is able to
come close in producing this 380 km/hr HST system (from track to train) at all.


We all know -- a few countries had a 10 --- 20 years head start in terms of acquiring HST technology, .... ....
yet they are not able to create this 380 km/hr HST system.


JOKE: Maybe, some countries will send their Trojan spies to STEAL this CRH380 Hi-Tech
from China like they STOLE China Compass, Gun Powder and Paper technologies.


We know one country (in North America) is begging China to finance and build this
CRH380 system for them, and pay the whole projects in WORTHLESS monopoly money.




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Get a new tune troll. And China is offering it. No one is begging for it.
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