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Old December 9th, 2010, 06:06 AM   #4081
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Can you elaborate?
nothing to really elaborate on, since that's what the chinese say they will do... so we'll have to see if they can actually pull that off...
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Old December 9th, 2010, 06:17 AM   #4082
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nothing to really elaborate on, since that's what the chinese say they will do... so we'll have to see if they can actually pull that off...
I was referring to the source of that statement, we know CIT400 based on the CRH380A will aim for 500-600 kph next year, sometimes between March and September based on different statements, but I'm not aware there's any plans to have a 16 car CRH380AL run at 550 kph by next April by testing or operation. As far as I know the next generation will be called CRH420s.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #4083
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I was referring to the source of that statement, we know CIT400 based on the CRH380A will aim for 500-600 kph next year, sometimes between March and September based on different statements, but I'm not aware there's any plans to have a 16 car CRH380AL run at 550 kph by next April by testing or operation. As far as I know the next generation will be called CRH420s.
i see.... china is known for its ambiguity when it comes to matters such as this..... as of now, i don't believe they have released any specific enough information that is verifyable by more than one consistent source, so like i said, we'll have to wait and see.... a few more months maybe.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 09:22 AM   #4084
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I was referring to the source of that statement, we know CIT400 based on the CRH380A will aim for 500-600 kph next year, sometimes between March and September based on different statements, but I'm not aware there's any plans to have a 16 car CRH380AL run at 550 kph by next April by testing or operation. As far as I know the next generation will be called CRH420s.
Opps, my mistake. let me clarify. --- what I meant was one of (CSR Sifang , CNR Tangshan , CNR Changchun -- they are competing fiercely among themselves) will introduce another 16 Car set -- CRH train (as of now -- the CRH designation is unknown) that will breakthrough the 550km/h.

It is probable that it will be named as CRH480xxx, because the normal operating speed of the train will increase to (480 km/h) on the Beijing -- Shanghai PDL.

Which means the traveling time between Beijing -- Shanghai PDL will be reduce significantly down to less than 4 hours.

From the way things are unfolding, traveling by CRH HST will use less time than airplane.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 09:48 AM   #4085
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Opps, my mistake. let me clarify. --- what I meant was one of (CSR Sifang , CNR Tangshan , CNR Changchun -- they are competing fiercely among themselves) will introduce another 16 Car set -- CRH train (as of now -- the CRH designation is unknown) that will breakthrough the 550km/h.

It is probable that it will be named as CRH480xxx, because the normal operating speed of the train will increase to (480 km/h) on the Beijing -- Shanghai PDL.

Which means the traveling time between Beijing -- Shanghai PDL will be reduce significantly down to less than 4 hours.

From the way things are unfolding, traveling by CRH HST will use less time than airplane.
Is this based on inside source or rumor? I know they are aiming for it but I'm not aware any statements has been made so far.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 09:51 AM   #4086
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Is this for real or from your imagination?
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Old December 9th, 2010, 09:56 AM   #4087
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Old December 9th, 2010, 10:02 AM   #4088
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going from 380 to 480 requires 101,5 % more energy which would double the prices

let alone wear & tear
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Old December 9th, 2010, 10:32 AM   #4089
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Electricity is a very small fraction of your ticket price.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 10:36 AM   #4090
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and i have a bridge to sell
Next year 2011 May is just around the corner.
We shall see if I am just boasting or not.

You all can see if I over-promise and under-deliver or
I under-promise and over-deliver.

This is so much fun.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 12:05 PM   #4091
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China welcome Spain!!

Spain and China Cooperation on HST R&D

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in Beijing today by a delegation from the Ministry of Public Works, headed up by the secretary general for Public Relations, Fernando Puig de la Bellacasa.

China's sub-director for railway planning, Yan Hexiang, said that cooperation to and from Spain and China could be seen in a number of sectors and "we hope that the railway sector will contribute to the friendship to and from the two countries". ... ...

From December 18th, when the high-speed link to and from Valencia and Madrid opens, Spain will have 2,665km of high-speed railway lines, making it the European leader with the country's six most important cities linked to 15 provincial capitals. ... ...
Source: http://thereader.es/en/spain-news-st...e-Chinese.html
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Old December 9th, 2010, 02:29 PM   #4092
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someone is on drug today.... the forum is overflown with delirium....
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Old December 9th, 2010, 03:58 PM   #4093
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Next year 2011 May is just around the corner.
We shall see if I am just boasting or not.

You all can see if I over-promise and under-deliver or
I under-promise and over-deliver.

This is so much fun.

you said normal operation speed will be 480

they will conduct tests at around 500 that much is clear from several orders of equipment, who knows, probably even break the record


operating trainsets and pdls for 480? i think not
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Old December 9th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #4094
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Is this based on inside source or rumor? I know they are aiming for it but I'm not aware any statements has been made so far.
What do you think, obviously it's rumor, possibly started by Mika in the first place.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #4095
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This just came to my mind, with the new CRH380 generation trains are the pantographs still the same type used on the previous CRH2, CRH3, and CRH5 series? At what point will we see a new type of pantograph being developed/testing? From the looks of the CRH380A the pantograph seems like the ones that are found on the CRH2. With a operational speed of 380km/h and testing speed surpassing 400km/h I'm kind of suprised they haven't developed a new one as opposed to like the Shinkansen E5 and E6 series which only travel up to 320 that have a new design of pantograph.
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Old December 9th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #4096
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I can only guess either new materials were used or the original pantograph was operating below its rated limits. Its more likely new materials since there were official statements mentioning new materials has been used in the overhead cables.

I'm guessing aerodynamically it wasn't a limiting factor.
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Old December 10th, 2010, 01:37 AM   #4097
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Source: http://thereader.es/en/spain-news-st...e-Chinese.html
Nice, one of few technological things Spain has to offer. Other than that, we can only tell how to breed pigs to make good jam and chorizo
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Old December 10th, 2010, 04:58 PM   #4098
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I don't think spanish firms as Gamesa or Acciona are "aficionados" .
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Old December 10th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #4099
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Notably, what has NOT changed is the status of Yichang-Enshi-Wanzhou railway and Hainan East Ring. Both are completed, yet to open and delayed.

Any news about these two?

More observations:
There is a railway in construction a short stretch east of Zhenjiang. What is it?
Why is Guangzhou-Shenzhen completed? What is the status of the Pearl River tunnel?
Besides the Golmud-Korla line, was there some list of planned railways in Xinjiang?
Yes. There is a four north-south and four east-west railway corridors planned in Xinjiang. The environmental impact assessment has been finished.

Four north-south routes:
• Altay–Fuhai–Karamay–Kuytun
• Fuhai–Wucaiwan–Urumqi
• Turpan–Korla–Kashgar
• Hami–Ruoqiang–Hotan

Four east-west routes:
• Lanzhou–Urumqi–Jinghe–Yining–Khorgas (border with Kazakhstan)
• Jiangjunmiao–Hami–Eiin (in Inner Mongolia)
• Korla–Ruoqiang–Golmud (in Qinghai)
• Kashgar–Hotan–Shigatse (in Tibet)
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Yes. There is a four north-south and four east-west railway corridors planned in Xinjiang. The environmental impact assessment has been finished.

Four north-south routes:
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• Hami–Ruoqiang–Hotan
Looked for it, cannot see it, even in green.
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Four east-west routes:
• Lanzhou–Urumqi–Jinghe–Yining–Khorgas (border with Kazakhstan)
Completed, blue
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• Korla–Ruoqiang–Golmud (in Qinghai)
Soon to start, seen in yellow
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• Kashgar–Hotan–Shigatse (in Tibet)
Looked for it as well, cannot find it either even in green.
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