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Old February 17th, 2011, 02:07 PM   #4341
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The circular lights are horrible
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Old February 17th, 2011, 04:18 PM   #4342
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First chinese self-made maglev train put into commerzial service at the pudong maglev track in Shanghai

http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/con...1/319935.shtml









OH GOD IT LOOKS AWFUL.

In all seriousness, China needs to put more effort into the design of these trains, it's firstly pretty much a clone of the original, design-wise, and those circular headlights and tiny windows are just so awkward and look like they were just slapped on as an afterthought.

The one Chinese-designed train that really appeals to me is the CRH 380-C (I think, it's velaro-based) which has the modified nosecone, it look very sleek and elegant.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 05:42 AM   #4343
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I prefer 380A.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 06:52 AM   #4344
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Gentlemen sorry for interrupting the hot topic of Liu but I have one more question to ask.

I was previously going to take a train from Guangzhou to Wuhan and was wondering about seat availability. However I decided instead to go only as far as Chenzhou which is one of the few major stops where CRH trains stop frequently and it's just over an hour away from Guangzhou. I have to do this in order to save money and yet I should be able to see the best the trains and the line has to offer (i.e. speed above all).

The question is is it easy to get a seat from Guangzhou South to Chenzhou? Logically it should be easier than to get a seat to Wuhan or Changsha. Maybe it's even possible to get a seat for the same day or even for the next train when purchasing ticket? Or are there some kind of other priorities for seat availability?
If your coming from London, then you should be able to afford 1st class and it is worth it if your only planning on doing this once in your life.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:09 AM   #4345
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If your coming from London, then you should be able to afford 1st class and it is worth it if your only planning on doing this once in your life.
It's stupid because the line will no longer be the fastest very soon. Beijing–Shanghai line is set to open on June 20.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:28 AM   #4346
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It's stupid because the line will no longer be the fastest very soon. Beijing–Shanghai line is set to open on June 20.
So the day is known now? Last news had been "middle of June".

Exactly when in June shall Guangzhou-Shenzhen high speed railway open?

When shall Beijing-Shanghai line become the fastest? When it first opens, it is supposed to have restricted speeds and take 4:37 for nonstop train. Speeding the line up to 3:58 and maximum 380 km/h would happen later.

Shall Beijing-Shanghai line on initial opening be faster than Guangzhou-Wuhan, equally fast or actually slower?

Shanghai-Beijing railway line shall have 24 stations in total, starting with Kunshan South. When nonstop train takes 4:37. how long shall a train with all stops take?
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:34 AM   #4347
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So the day is known now? Last news had been "middle of June".

Exactly when in June shall Guangzhou-Shenzhen high speed railway open?

When shall Beijing-Shanghai line become the fastest? When it first opens, it is supposed to have restricted speeds and take 4:37 for nonstop train. Speeding the line up to 3:58 and maximum 380 km/h would happen later.

Shall Beijing-Shanghai line on initial opening be faster than Guangzhou-Wuhan, equally fast or actually slower?

Shanghai-Beijing railway line shall have 24 stations in total, starting with Kunshan South. When nonstop train takes 4:37. how long shall a train with all stops take?
You always have so many questions. lol

Who told you the non-stop will take 4:37? Even running at max. 320 km/h, it won't take that long.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 10:33 AM   #4348
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You always have so many questions. lol
Yep, trying to sort out contradictory information and fill obvious gaps.
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Who told you the non-stop will take 4:37? Even running at max. 320 km/h, it won't take that long.
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http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_460727.htm

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During the early stages of the new service, speeds will be restricted to 300kph, making the journey about 4 hours and 37 minutes, railway authorities said.



Read more: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...#ixzz1EIVNKsJc
Were the railway authorities wrong then, or have the plans been changed in the month and a half since?
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Old February 18th, 2011, 10:51 AM   #4349
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You can safely ignore it.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #4350
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Good to heard that China High Speed Train export to other country, atleast give some impact and share the high speed train market which originally monopoly by Japs, German and France.

Traditional high speed train country always requested high cost for technology transfer, mojority of the country is unable to effort such a high cost. China high speed train make majority of the deleveloping country high speed train dream come true or come nearer to them.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 07:18 AM   #4351
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China approves engineering research center for high-speed trains

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BEIJING - China's Ministry of Science and Technology has approved a subsidiary of CSR Corporation Limited (CSR), China's largest rail vehicle maker, to set up an engineering research center for high-speed trains. The research center of CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock Co Ltd (Sifang Locomotive), is the first of its kind in China, said a CSR statement Wednesday. The research center will provide a platform for high-level research and development, experiments and engineering technology studies for China's high-speed trains, it said.

Sifang Locomotive is the maker of China's CRH-380A train, which set a world record speed of 486.1 kilometers per hour during a test run on the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed railway in December last year. Currently, more than 40 CRH-380A trains made by Sifang Locomotive have been put into operation in China, according to the statement. CSR was co-founded by China South Locomotive and Rolling Stock Industry Group Corporation and Beijing Railway Industry Economic and Trade Company in December 2007.
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Old February 25th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #4352
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So apparently, the move has been taken to begin development of the HXD3D, a 200 kph passenger version of the 3B and 3C models:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%...9C%BA%E8%BD%A6
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HXD3D electric locomotive ("Harmony" electric 3D type), is currently under development, is expected in 2011 for the China Railway 's AC transmission lines high-speed passenger electric locomotive is one model.

[ 编辑 ] 概要HXD3D locomotive is the AC drive electric locomotives passenger six-axis lines, is being used by CNR Dalian Locomotive & Rolling Stock Co., Ltd. R & D and production is expected before the end of 2011 developed prototype, mass production in 2012 [1] . Vehicle code HXD3D (manufacturer code numbers are: 3 on behalf of Dalian Locomotive), commonly known as "harmonious" 3D electric locomotive (vehicle number HXD3Dxxxx). Maximum operating speed of about 200km / h. HXD3D can ease the whole railway locomotive quasi-high speed locomotive tension, making a large number of existing speed rail line to open the express train, to fill the high-power AC drive locomotives in Mainland China in the practical application of quasi-high speed range of the blank.
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Old February 26th, 2011, 02:58 AM   #4353
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Old February 26th, 2011, 10:28 AM   #4354
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So apparently, the move has been taken to begin development of the HXD3D, a 200 kph passenger version of the 3B and 3C models:
How much of the existing railway network has the electrification and track quality to support 200 km/h running of HXD3D?

What is the smallest number of cars HXD3D can have?
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Old February 27th, 2011, 04:14 AM   #4355
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China railway promotion video: high-speed network, heavy-haul train & tibet railway

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Old February 27th, 2011, 06:40 AM   #4356
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Chinese railways set record for single day passengers

BEIJING, Feb. 20 (Xinhua) -- China's railways handled 7.13 million passengers Saturday, setting a new one day record, the Ministry of Railways (MOR) said Sunday.

The figure was 16 percent higher year on year, the MOR said.

Chinese railways are witnessing a new wave of travel after the Lantern Festival celebration (the 15th day of the first month in the Lunar New Year) Thursday, which is considered a symbolic ending of the festival season.

China's Spring Festival fell on Feb. 3 this year.

The busy Spring Festival transportation season runs for 40 days and is calculated in two phases: 15 days before the Spring Festival and 25 days after the Spring Festival.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 12:50 PM   #4357
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Old February 27th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #4358
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China rail firms look abroad for expansion
By Boris Cambreleng (AFP) – 10 hours ago
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BEIJING — China's rail and train builders, who gained valuable experience at home in projects with Western heavyweights, are now competing with them for global contracts, but analysts say a lack of international savvy could clip their ambitions.

China already has 8,300 kilometres (5,150 miles) of high-speed rail and from next year will boast more than half of the world's fast tracks.

The country is also pouring money into its urban underground networks, with nearly two dozen major cities given the green light in late 2009 to build 89 metro lines by 2016 -- at an estimated cost of 880 billion yuan ($134 billion).

Train constructors China Northern Railway (CNR) and China Southern Railway (CSR), along with China Railway Group and China Railway Construction Corp Ltd., are now confidently battling -- and earning the respect of -- industry giants Alstom, Bombardier and Siemens, from whom they acquired significant technology.

Chinese firms gained the rights to use certain rail technology when they bought equipment from Western firms, which they went on to modify.

China says its products are the result of homegrown innovation, but some foreign executives complained in the past that technology meant for domestic use is now being used -- unfairly -- in products for export

"The very strong growth in the Chinese market will continue over the next decade but it will henceforth be focused on overseas markets," the president of French group Alstom's China division, Dominique Pouliquen, told AFP.

"The tech transfer issue is no longer relevant. The Chinese have acquired a lot of experience and have lots of engineers, which allows them to make up any (technological) delay in 18 months to two years," Pouliquen said.

His counterpart for Canada's Bombardier, Zhang Jianwei, agreed.

"Both CSR and CNR have grown very rapidly, benefiting from the rapid development of the Chinese railway and urban mass transit markets, and they are becoming important players in the field worldwide," he told AFP.

In December, US conglomerate General Electric signed a deal with CSR to manufacture high-speed trains in the United States -- a project President Barack Obama sees as key to rebuilding US competitiveness and creating jobs.

Only a few months before, during a September visit to Shanghai, then California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger raised eyebrows when he said he hoped China would invest in his state's future high-speed rail network.

And in Britain, CSR is reportedly in the running to win a contract for 120 high-speed trains, which the firm would initially loan out to diminish costs, according to the 21st Century Business Herald, a Chinese financial newspaper.

"According to our strategic development plan, our turnover should hit 150 billion yuan in 2015, which would make us the world's number one manufacturer of rail transport equipment," CSR said in a statement to AFP.

"CSR is in the process of speeding up its internationalisation," said the firm, adding that it expected overseas sales to account for 20 percent of its turnover in 2015.

Experts say however that China's key players in the sector have a long way to go before they can best their French, Canadian and German rivals.

"CSR and CNR have made major progress, but they only currently have a stake in about five percent of the global market," Li Xuerong, an industry analyst at CIConsulting in the Chinese city of Shenzhen, told AFP.

Frederic Campagnac, a Beijing-based transport and logistics expert, said the Chinese firms would hit obstacles as they expand their reach.

"The Chinese train and rail manufacturers have acquired significant know-how thanks to the domestic market, but they are untested abroad. It's very difficult for a Chinese company to work in a non-Chinese setting," he said.

Li said Chinese firms undoubtedly prefer to work on their own rather with local partners -- a strategy that is easier to achieve in developing countries than in major economies with a homegrown rail industry.

This year, construction will begin on a rail link across Laos that will connect China to Thailand and the rest of Southeast Asia.

Earlier this month, a state-run Iranian firm signed a $13 billion deal with China to build a 5,300-kilometre railway network in the Islamic republic.

In Africa, where China built a railway linking Tanzania and Zambia in the 1970s, Chinese firms have more recently worked to refurbish the rails in Angola and won approval to build a rail line in Sudan.

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Old February 28th, 2011, 01:53 PM   #4359
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[Feb 28] Hohhot East Station opened; Construction work of Zhangjiakou–Hohhot HSR line and Hohhot–Jungar–Ordos line started

Zhangjiakou–Hohhot High-Speed Railway
- Length: 286 km
- Speed: mostly 350 km/h; Taobuqi–Hohhot East section (~ 30 km) 250 km/h
- Due to open in 2015

Hohhot–Jungar–Ordos Railway
- Length: 174 km
- Speed: 200 km/h
- Due to open in 2014

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Old March 1st, 2011, 04:11 PM   #4360
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China railways carry 221 mln passengers over Spring Festival travel period: mini

BEIJING, Feb. 28 (Xinhua) -- China's railways carried a record 221 million passengers during a 40-day Spring Festival travel rush period that ended on Sunday, the Ministry of Railways said Monday.

The figure represents an increase of 8.3 percent from the last Spring Festival period, said the ministry in an online statement.

The daily transport capacity in five out of the 40 days exceeded the previous record of 6.37 million set last year, it said.

A new record was established on Feb. 19 with 7.13 million passengers traveling on that day, it added.

Spring Festival, or Chinese Lunar New Year, fell on Feb. 3 this year. It is the most important festival of family reunion for the Chinese.
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