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Old January 13th, 2012, 12:39 AM   #4561
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It's probably better than before, but still far from adequate. For example, everyone here seem to think that those new stations are excessive, but during Chinese New Year they don't seem too big anymore. Here at the fairly new and large Fuzhou Station which serve many long distance and HSR trains, they had to erect tents as temporary waiting rooms for passenger because the main building is filled up.

Agreed Totally!

I think a lot of people outside of China (mostly in the west) simply do not comprehend the magnitude and scale of the travelling population during peak seasons in China (and the Chinese New Year is just one of many - yes, the biggest).

The best way that I can describe it is : Imagine 1.5 to 2.0 times of the entire population of the United States on the move, and all of these movements are compressed into a 10 day period before the new year's holiday and this pattern repeats itself again right after the new year's holiday.

No country but China has experience in managing this kind of volume on people movement in history, so to use other reference points to judge might not be fitting.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 02:41 AM   #4562
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It's probably better than before, but still far from adequate. For example, everyone here seem to think that those new stations are excessive, but during Chinese New Year they don't seem too big anymore. Here at the fairly new and large Fuzhou Station which serve many long distance and HSR trains, they had to erect tents as temporary waiting rooms for passenger because the main building is filled up.


No, no... new stations are toooo big... bad planing, showing off etc...
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Old January 13th, 2012, 03:24 AM   #4563
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Thank you, hmmwv, for the photos! Seems like Chinanews.com does an excellent job in helping the crooks.

On this particular picture, you can see the negative, and potentially dangerous, side of having to print one's ID number on the train picture and even posting it on the internet (the ID number is the long number on the bottom-left corner of the ticket).

Now the whole internet community know that the ticket belongs to a student with his/her birthday on 1997/06/06. All you need to know is this person's name, but (if you stick around the trash bin for a while) it might not be too difficult to obtain, and we would have a classic example of a stolen identity.

What do you do with your used train tickets?
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Old January 13th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #4564
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No, no... new stations are toooo big... bad planing, showing off etc...
Nah~~~ its not too big, you must there to experience your self, Chunyun is the largest yearly human migration on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunyun

Stoneybee already explained "Imagine 1.5 to 2.0 times of the entire population of the United States on the move"
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Old January 13th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #4565
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Nah~~~ its not too big, you must there to experience your self, Chunyun is the largest yearly human migration on earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunyun

Stoneybee already explained "Imagine 1.5 to 2.0 times of the entire population of the United States on the move"
sarcasm, dude. come on
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Old January 13th, 2012, 07:05 AM   #4566
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sarcasm, dude. come on
If that sarcastic for you, i would say sorry

I hope d explanation is enough to clear your doubt why new station required big space instead of what you commented showing off or bad planning.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 09:33 AM   #4567
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Thank you, hmmwv, for the photos! Seems like Chinanews.com does an excellent job in helping the crooks.

On this particular picture, you can see the negative, and potentially dangerous, side of having to print one's ID number on the train picture and even posting it on the internet (the ID number is the long number on the bottom-left corner of the ticket).

Now the whole internet community know that the ticket belongs to a student with his/her birthday on 1997/06/06. All you need to know is this person's name, but (if you stick around the trash bin for a while) it might not be too difficult to obtain, and we would have a classic example of a stolen identity.
In China?

What do you need to steal the identity of a Chinese? That is, impersonate a Chinese who possesses a Chinese ID?
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Old January 13th, 2012, 11:57 AM   #4568
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In China?

What do you need to steal the identity of a Chinese? That is, impersonate a Chinese who possesses a Chinese ID?
  1. Full ID number is printed on the train ticket
  2. ID number in China includes someone's birthday
  3. Name? Simply pickup disused ticket, walk up to that person and ask him (probably the easiest way)

This is already too much information you should give to someone you don't know...
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Old January 13th, 2012, 12:19 PM   #4569
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  1. Full ID number is printed on the train ticket
  2. ID number in China includes someone's birthday
  3. Name? Simply pickup disused ticket, walk up to that person and ask him (probably the easiest way)

This is already too much information you should give to someone you don't know...
Full ID number is no longer printed on the train ticket. But you can always get the full number from the QR code.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 02:17 PM   #4570
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Full ID number is no longer printed on the train ticket. But you can always get the full number from the QR code.
One can judge from some of the pictures by Chinanews.com, posted earlier by hmmwv, that the ID numbers are still being printed on the tickets. I can confirm though, that for the foreigners, full passport numbers are also printed (but this depends on the ticket clerk, if he or she wants to type in the whole thing).
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Old January 13th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #4571
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Thank you, hmmwv, for the photos! Seems like Chinanews.com does an excellent job in helping the crooks.

On this particular picture, you can see the negative, and potentially dangerous, side of having to print one's ID number on the train picture and even posting it on the internet (the ID number is the long number on the bottom-left corner of the ticket).

Now the whole internet community know that the ticket belongs to a student with his/her birthday on 1997/06/06. All you need to know is this person's name, but (if you stick around the trash bin for a while) it might not be too difficult to obtain, and we would have a classic example of a stolen identity.

What do you do with your used train tickets?
Did you see the chick in post 4454? She's holding her ID and the numbers are identifiable too. Getting people's ID number is pretty useless cuz you can't do anything with it. The QR code contains unencrypted ID number as well and it hasn't cause much problem, MOR did warn people not to discard tickets without torn it.
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Old January 14th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #4572
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Yeah two sections of the Wuhan Intercity system will probably the first to open for commercial service this year.
Two sections?

One is Wuhan-Xianning.

What is the second?
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Old January 14th, 2012, 08:17 AM   #4573
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Wuhan-Huangshi. Note both the Xianning and Huangshi lines were well on schedule until July 2011, when one common section of the two lines didn't pass environmental inspection due to violation of noise regulation, and construction suspended for a few months. Both lines are fully funded and construction have resumed, will both open in 2012. OTOH the Wuhan-Xiaogan has faced financing problem and its opening delayed from 2011 to 2013.

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Old January 14th, 2012, 09:42 AM   #4574
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What is the length of the railway branch from Wuhan-Xianning intercity railway to Huangshi?

The opening date of Wuhan-Xianning has been mentioned in May. In which month of 2012 shall Wuhan-Huangshi open?
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Old January 14th, 2012, 01:04 PM   #4575
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Both lines are originated from the ring line connecting several stations inside Wuhan City, as you can see here. The red line is Wuhan-Xianning, light yellow one is Wuhan-Huangshi.

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Old January 14th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #4576
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Thanks a lot!

There are now less than 9 days left of the Hare Year. Have the train schedules for the end of the year and for the beginning of the Dragon Year been disclosed?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #4577
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Reported that the MOR online booking website 12306.cn has received on average 1 billion visits per day for five days, peaked at 1.4 billion hits. The traffic is way more than its design capacity, causing major delays and time outs. According to Alexa during this period the website's visitors accounted for close to 1% of total global internet users.

http://china.cnr.cn/yaowen/201201/t2...09058080.shtml
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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:47 AM   #4578
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Reported that the MOR online booking website 12306.cn has received on average 1 billion visits per day for five days, peaked at 1.4 billion hits. The traffic is way more than its design capacity, causing major delays and time outs. According to Alexa during this period the website's visitors accounted for close to 1% of total global internet users.

http://china.cnr.cn/yaowen/201201/t2...09058080.shtml
Global daily rank of 12306.cn (China Railways online booking service)



Trying to book Z79 ticket from Beijing to Tianjin this morning:







While at the same time:



The Ministry of Railways under Sheng Guangzu == Bad!

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Old January 15th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #4579
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Global daily rank of 12306.cn (China Railways online booking service)



Trying to book Z79 ticket from Beijing to Tianjin this morning:







While at the same time:



The Ministry of Railways under Sheng Guangzu == Bad!
Or prehaps they just have terribly underestimated the demand and don't have enough server capacity.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 12:01 PM   #4580
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Or prehaps they just have terribly underestimated the demand and don't have enough server capacity.
Which they shouldn't have if they had even half a brain.
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