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Old January 15th, 2012, 03:02 PM   #4581
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Considering the accursed Sheng Guangzu:
is he the permanent, whole generation Minister of Railways?

Fu Zhihuan (born March 1938) left office around his 65th birthday, in March 2003. Which happened to be the specific month when Zhu Rongji left office (age 74) and Wen Jiabao entered office (age 61).

In the month that Wen Jiabao (born 1942) started working as Prime Minister, Liu Zhijun (born 1953) became Minister of Railways at age 50.

Liu Zhijun was dismissed as Minister in spring 2011 (age 58), and replaced with Sheng Guangzu (born 1949, age 61).

Wen Jiabao shall celebrate his 70th birthday on 15th of September.

If Wen Jiabao were to retire, for example in 2013, would Sheng Guangzu continue as Minister of Railways? Or could China currently be looking for a permanent Minister of Railways, who might start working for example in Spring 2013 and remain in office till 2023?
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Old January 15th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #4582
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Or prehaps they just have terribly underestimated the demand and don't have enough server capacity.
I partially agree. It is almost a brand new web site with a brand new service. If this happens next time then there is smt to worry.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #4583
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Which they shouldn't have if they had even half a brain.
Their peak demand is 1.4 billion visits a day, and it'll be hard to predict such demand because they underestimated the determination of Chinese migrant workers who will occupy multiple computers in a Internet cafe and open multiple accounts to purchase tickets. So those redundant server requests is what caused the traffic jam. Also there are the users from smart phones. The news have mentioned that their initial bandwidth is 1Gbps and later increased to 1.5. That struck me as adequate during normal time, but not for the New Year peak. What they should have done is rent server from cloud computing providers to handle the surged demand, while only maintain a smaller server farm in house to handle the normal load.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 11:55 PM   #4584
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No, no... new stations are toooo big... bad planing, showing off etc...

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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #4585
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Old January 16th, 2012, 04:36 AM   #4586
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Both lines are originated from the ring line connecting several stations inside Wuhan City, as you can see here. The red line is Wuhan-Xianning, light yellow one is Wuhan-Huangshi.

Looks a lot like Chicago with all those lines converging in a loop in the middle. Why is one of the orange line's ends dashed? Is that a part that has not started construction just yet?
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Old January 16th, 2012, 07:12 AM   #4587
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Looks a lot like Chicago with all those lines converging in a loop in the middle. Why is one of the orange line's ends dashed? Is that a part that has not started construction just yet?
I believe that section is not part of the Wuhan commuter rail system, it's a future plan to link it with the Beijing-Kowloon line, which already has a stop at Wuhan station.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 07:53 AM   #4588
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What are the grey lines?

Are these slow speed railways?
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Old January 16th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #4589
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Grey lines are National Railway, the conventional railways. Blue are CRH lines.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #4590
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Do I then guess right, that the blue line going away south and closely bunched together with a red and a grey line is Wuhan-Shenzhen high speed railway? And the accompanying grey line is the Wuchang-Kowloon railway?
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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #4591
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You are correct.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #4592
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Then where is Huangshi?

It was said that it is the light yellow line that goes to Huangshi (not the dark yellow).

The grey line in the southeast of the map passes Huangshi, and exits the map along the south bank of Yangtze. Is this the line which continues to Nanchang?

Do the D trains now operating between Wuhan and Nanchang use the Jiujiang-Nanchang high speed railway?

Which shall be faster between Wuhan and Huangshi - the old railway to Nanchang, or the new Wuhan Metropolis Intercity Railway?

Also, where does the railway go which enters the map on the southeast on the north bank of Yangtze but then without reaching Wuhan turns away out of the map on the northeast (and connects to the dark yellow line)?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 02:36 AM   #4593
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Huangshi North is second to last stop on the light yellow line, the orange line goes to Huanggang East. The grey line to the sourtheast is the Wuhan-Jiujiang railway, which is now upgraded to 200km/h with D trains on intercity service continued to Nanchang. This railway goes to Huangshi Station, while the new one goes to Huangshi North. The line that passes through the legend is the Beijing-Kowloon line. Note Beijing-Kowloon and Beijing-Guangzhou are two different rail lines, the former doesn't pass through Wuhan (instead go through Jiujiang) but the latter does.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 09:56 AM   #4594
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Thanks a lot!

It was a confusing surprise to find the Beijing-Nanchang railway so near Wuhan (plus, the designations of "Guangzhou" and "Kowloon" do not distinguish these well).

Since it is the map of Wuhan Megalopolis Intercity Rail, the stations of high and low speed railways are unmarked when not shared with megalopolis railway.

Do I guess it right that the blue railway which follows Han river and leaves the map westwards is the high speed railway to Yichang, Lichuan and Wanzhou, that shall open in June?

I note that unlike the slow speed railway, which forms a triangle, the blue line only follows two sides of the triangle - such that in June, direct trains Nanjing-Hefei-Hankou-Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou (and Nanjing-Wuhan-Lichuan-Chongqing, if completed) can go straight to Chongqing, but the direct trains Guangzhou-Wuhan-Yichang, or Shenzhen-Chongqing, have to reverse direction in Wuhan.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #4595
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You are right the line to the left is Wuhan-Yichang PDL. I'm sure it has a connecting track to link with Wuhan-Guangzhou line, it'd be pretty comical for the train to reverse. This diagram is just a graphic representation of the network, not accurate geographically.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 11:44 AM   #4596
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Harbin-Dalian PDL, construction completed, test run delayed to March 2012, service start June 2012.

Nanjing-Hangzhou HSR, construction completed, test run delayed to Feb 2012, service start June 2012.

Hangzhou-Ningbo PDL, service start delayed to June 2012.

Wuhan-Yichang HSR, construction completed and test started in Nov 2011, service start June 2012.
Thus, after opening of Wuhan-Xianning in May, in June opening of Wuhan-Yichang completes the railway Shanghai-Nanjing-Hefei-Hankou-Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou, and the opening of Nanjing-Hangzhou and Hangzhou-Ningbo completes direct 300 km/h Beijing-Ningbo and all-high-speed Beijing-Xiamen.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #4597
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Delay? What cause the delay?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:37 PM   #4598
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Thus, after opening of Wuhan-Xianning in May, in June opening of Wuhan-Yichang completes the railway Shanghai-Nanjing-Hefei-Hankou-Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou, and the opening of Nanjing-Hangzhou and Hangzhou-Ningbo completes direct 300 km/h Beijing-Ningbo and all-high-speed Beijing-Xiamen.
I believe the Beijing-Xiaman train will still go through Shanghai using the current Jinhu line. And from Ningbo to Xiamen it's all 250km/h line.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #4599
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Shijiazhuang-Wuhan PDL, construction completed, test run delayed to March 2012, service start July 2012.
When the high speed railway Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan opens, does it have a station in Tianhe Airport?
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Old January 18th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #4600
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Wuhan station saw a record of 907,000 passengers on Jan 14th.

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