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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:06 AM   #4621
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China cuts back on railway expansion
26 January 2012 By William Dennis


China’s Ministry of Railways will invest $63bn in expanding the network in 2012, down 17 per cent from last year and a sharp decline from the $112bn spent in 2010. The funding will be used mainly to complete projects that are behind schedule.

A Ministry official in Beijing, Tian Yunlei, said a total of 6,366km of new lines will be commissioned this year.

Last year 2,022km tracks were completed and commissioned, less than half of the 5,000km targeted.

The Ministry will also provide $15bn to construct rail lines that are needed to transport thermal coal to coal-fired power plants.

Tian said these lines are important and are needed to complete a trunk railway network to speed up economic development particularly in the less developed western regions.

Several projects that are due to start construction this year have been deferred to 2013 or possibly later because of a lack of funds, while others due to be completed in 2012 will be delayed between six months to a year. These projects have a combined network of 10,620km lines.

Construction of all rail tunnels in Yunnan province has been suspended.

Tian attributed the lack of funds to the Rail Ministry’s inability to secure loans from the banks, because the Federal government’s stimulus plan of $632bn had been used up.

Heavy borrowing in the past has put the Ministry in a quandary, with a debt of $316bn.

In a separate development, work begins in February on a second high-speed line on the popular resort island of Hainan. The first section of the 345km line will connect with Phoenix International Airport in Sanya, at the southern tip of the island. Construction of the other 11 sections will start in the second half of the year. Completion is scheduled for 2015. Trains will travel at up to 250km/h.

Dubbed the Western Ring Railway, it will cost $4.3bn and will link up with the 308km-long Eastern Ring Railway to form a circuit around the island.

High-speed trains are proving a big attraction in Hainan. Some 10 million tourists have travelled on the ERR since December 2010. The line links Haikou, the capital at the northern end of the island, to Sanya.
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2012/jan/china-railway.cfm
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Old January 27th, 2012, 02:47 AM   #4622
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People dont get bored with the same old story, huh??
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Old January 27th, 2012, 11:07 AM   #4623
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People dont get bored with the same old story, huh??
Some of it has been heard before, like:
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China’s Ministry of Railways will invest $63bn in expanding the network in 2012, down 17 per cent from last year and a sharp decline from the $112bn spent in 2010. The funding will be used mainly to complete projects that are behind schedule.

A Ministry official in Beijing, Tian Yunlei, said a total of 6,366km of new lines will be commissioned this year.

Last year 2,022km tracks were completed and commissioned, less than half of the 5,000km targeted.

The Ministry will also provide $15bn to construct rail lines that are needed to transport thermal coal to coal-fired power plants.
I am not sure about all details. Like:
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Several projects that are due to start construction this year have been deferred to 2013 or possibly later because of a lack of funds, while others due to be completed in 2012 will be delayed between six months to a year. These projects have a combined network of 10,620km lines.

Construction of all rail tunnels in Yunnan province has been suspended.
Any specifics of the projects which were due for 2012?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 06:30 PM   #4624
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This is December news and has been posted and discussed extensively here.


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Some of it has been heard before, like:


I am not sure about all details. Like:

Any specifics of the projects which were due for 2012?
Nothing new was released it's just E&T magazine is slow to pick up the original story. I think from our compiled list a few weeks back it should be pretty clear what will be completed in 2012.
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Old January 28th, 2012, 04:04 AM   #4625
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Authorities warn bad weather as tourists make returning trips

BEIJING, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) -- Local authorities should take measures to guard against traffic accidents as snow and rainfalls are expected to hit most parts of the country's southern regions, affecting millions that were making their returning trips, the National Holiday Tourism Office said Friday.

Traffic flow on China's railways received the first returning peak on Friday, the sixth day of the week-long Spring Festival holiday. Long-distance trips are showing signs of cooling while short-distance tours are still popular, said the office.

Though the holiday is nearing its end, scenic spots across the country still saw increasing visitors. Sightseers to Shanghai's Oriental Pearl rose 6 percent year-on-year on Friday while those to the World Financial Center observatory rose 16.7 percent, data from the office showed.

China Meteorological Administration (CMA) said Friday that most parts of south China will see precipitation from Jan. 27 to 30, while light snow or fleets will hit the middle and lower reaches of the Yangtze River.

The office asked relevant authorities to step up preventive measures to brace for the bad weather to ensure safety for the tourists.

The Spring Festival, or Chinese Lunar New Year, which fell on Jan. 23 this year, is traditionally a time for family reunions in the nation.
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Old January 28th, 2012, 09:49 AM   #4626
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While Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway is open for first New Year, Guangzhou-Wuhan high speed railway has been open for 3 new years already: Tiger Year, Hare Year and Dragon Year.

Did Wuhan-Guangzhou high speed railway have the same number of trains, chart full to the design capacity, each New Year?
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Old January 28th, 2012, 03:24 PM   #4627
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Due to the location of Wuhan the Wuhan-Guangzhou line is always the hottest HSR line during Chunyun. It has always ran on full chart even during regular seasons until 2011 after Liu's sack and the speed reduction. In the past I think even more trains were added to a full operating chart during Chunyun, this year I think it only 4 pairs of G trains were added to the (not full) chart, however many pairs are now running heavy trains (380AL, 380BL or coupled together 380A and Bs).
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Old January 29th, 2012, 12:12 AM   #4628
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Hi, I'm very interested in the progress of the Beijing maglev. I am wondering if there is any real construction of the track on the actual planned route. I recently (2 months ago) walked all around the Pingguoyuan Subway Line 1 station to look for any construction activity and saw none. I did some research and saw that the S1 line was supposed to be built somewhere near that station.

Any thoughts or news. I would love to see some construction pictures!

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Old January 29th, 2012, 12:21 AM   #4629
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I am also tracking the maglev construction progress on the Incheon South Korea maglev currently being built. Together, along with the HSST maglev currently operating in Nagoya Japan, the Beijing maglev will be the 3rd low speed maglev build in the world. This is other than the Birmingham airport maglev discontinued in the 1990's.

At http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...835712&page=26 this shows the construction progress at Incheon International Airport in South Korea.

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Old January 29th, 2012, 11:48 AM   #4630
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Coming back from Moscow and St. Petersburg with this.

Train K3/003З Trans-Siberian speed profile:


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Old January 29th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #4631
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Due to the location of Wuhan the Wuhan-Guangzhou line is always the hottest HSR line during Chunyun. It has always ran on full chart even during regular seasons until 2011 after Liu's sack and the speed reduction. In the past I think even more trains were added to a full operating chart during Chunyun, this year I think it only 4 pairs of G trains were added to the (not full) chart, however many pairs are now running heavy trains (380AL, 380BL or coupled together 380A and Bs).
I see. So Wuhan-Guangzhou line has the opportunity to decrease frequencies but make trains heavy....

Are all stations on Wuhan-Guangzhou high speed railway fit for heavy trains, or are there some which heavy trains must skip?
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Old January 29th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #4632
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Train K3/003З Trans-Siberian speed profile:


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Cool stuff. What do you need to make such a chart? I assume a GPS device (would a mobile phone do?) and some software?
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Old January 29th, 2012, 11:18 PM   #4633
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A GPS in your mobile phone can work, but if you are in a tunnel or you lose the signal you can't get exact speed except an average.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 05:56 AM   #4634
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I see. So Wuhan-Guangzhou line has the opportunity to decrease frequencies but make trains heavy....

Are all stations on Wuhan-Guangzhou high speed railway fit for heavy trains, or are there some which heavy trains must skip?
I believe all stations can accommodate 16 car heavy trains.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 09:17 AM   #4635
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When shall the Chinese return from holidays?
Some time after the Lantern Festival on the full moon of the first month?

And when the return rush finally ends, shall the railways return to the exact schedule of Hare Year, or shall there be a new schedule for Dragon Year?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #4636
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When shall the Chinese return from holidays?
Some time after the Lantern Festival on the full moon of the first month?

And when the return rush finally ends, shall the railways return to the exact schedule of Hare Year, or shall there be a new schedule for Dragon Year?
The whole process takes 40 days although the official holiday has ended.

China's trains carry 6 mln people amid festival return rush

BEIJING, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) -- Nearly 6.66 million people traveled by train on Saturday as the week-long Spring Festival holiday ended, railway authorities said Sunday.

Saturday was the biggest day for China's public transportation since the start of the holiday, the Ministry of Railways (MOR) said on its website.

To cope with the post-holiday travel rush, railway authorities added 815 more trains to the country's railways. Railway traffic has generally been orderly, the ministry said.

The Spring Festival travel season will last from Jan. 8 to Feb. 16 this year, with hundreds of millions of people, mainly migrant workers and college students, traveling for the country's most important holiday.

Travelers are expected to make around 3.16 billion passenger trips this year, up 9.1 percent from a year earlier, of which 235 million trips will likely be made by train, up 6.1 percent year-on-year.
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Old January 30th, 2012, 01:18 PM   #4637
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The whole process takes 40 days although the official holiday has ended.

China's trains carry 6 mln people amid festival return rush

BEIJING, Jan. 29 (Xinhua) -- Nearly 6.66 million people traveled by train on Saturday as the week-long Spring Festival holiday ended, railway authorities said Sunday.

Saturday was the biggest day for China's public transportation since the start of the holiday, the Ministry of Railways (MOR) said on its website.
Does it mean that in this year, more passengers travelled back from holidays than towards them?
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The Spring Festival travel season will last from Jan. 8 to Feb. 16 this year, with hundreds of millions of people, mainly migrant workers and college students, traveling for the country's most important holiday.
Does it mean that Dragon Year schedule, whether or not identical to the Hare Year schedule, is due to start on 17th of February?
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Old January 30th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #4638
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Does it mean that in this year, more passengers travelled back from holidays than towards them?

Does it mean that Dragon Year schedule, whether or not identical to the Hare Year schedule, is due to start on 17th of February?
It just means people's travel plans back to the cities are more concentrated, many companies have fairly liberal policy regarding when people can start head home, but most have a deadline on when they have to return. The reason Chunyun stretches into mid February is mainly due to returning college students. I'd imagine by the end of the first week of February the peak should have already passed and railway schedule to return to normal level.
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Also, factory orders in the south have died down due to the European crisis, so many factories were flexible to close early and workers went home over a longer and earlier stretch of time.
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Old January 31st, 2012, 11:44 AM   #4640
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The reason Chunyun stretches into mid February is mainly due to returning college students. I'd imagine by the end of the first week of February the peak should have already passed and railway schedule to return to normal level.
Is there a specific due date for the beginning of the normal railway schedule?
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