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Old March 25th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #4701
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Does China still run those steam engines? Chinese passenger rail fascinates me. running both steam engines and modern HSR at the same time.
in a couple of coal mines and city of Diaobingshan (调兵山).

Diaobingshan is located 100km north of Shenyang. The steam engine park is actually a national AAA tourist area, with 21 steam engines running on the 220km tourist rail tracks.









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Old March 25th, 2012, 02:42 PM   #4702
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According to wiki

Power type Electric

Builder Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Company Limited , Siemens

Build date 2012-

UIC classification Co'Co'

Gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8 1⁄2 in)

Wheel diameter 1.250 m (4 ft 1.2 in)

Length 22.446 m (73 ft 7.7 in)

Axle load 21 t (21 long tons; 23 short tons)

Locomotive weight 126 t (124 long tons; 139 short tons)

Electric system 25kV 50Hz AC

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method Pantograph

Top speed 160 km/h (99 mph) (Service)
176 km/h (109 mph) (Test)

Power output 7.2 MW (9,700 hp) (continuous)
8.4 MW (11,300 hp) (short-time)

Tractive effort 420 kN (94,000 lbf) (Starting)
324 kN (73,000 lbf) (Continuous)

Locomotive brakes Regenerative and Pneumatic Disk

Train brakes Pneumatic
Thanks. It's quite a beast.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:37 AM   #4703
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This is the first version of Super-long Railway Tunnels in China that is operational or u/c. The Super-long Road Tunnels in China is list in Chinese Highway thread

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# Name (Chinese) Province Length km (mi) Tubextrack Year Completed Line(Chinese)

1. New Guanjiao Tunnel (新关角隧道) Qinghai 32.645 km (20.3 mi) 2x1 u/c Xining-Golmud Railway (青藏铁路)

2. West Qinling Tunnel (西秦岭隧道) Gansu 28.24 km (17.5 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

3. Taihang Tunnel (太行山隧道) Shanxi 27.9 km (17.3 mi) 2x1 2007 Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan High-Speed Railway(石太客专)

4. South Lüliangshan Tunnel (南吕梁山隧道) Shanxi 23.4647 km (14.6 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部铁路) 2tubes, 23.4647 km (14.6 mi) & 23.441 km (14.6 mi)

5. Middle Tianshan Tunnel (中天山隧道) Xinjiang 22.452 km (14.0 mi) 2x1 2012 Turpan-Kuqa 2nd Line Railway(南疆铁路土库二线)

6. Qingyunshan Tunnel (青云山隧道)Fujian 22.175 km (13.8 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

7.Wushaoling Tunnel (乌鞘岭隧道) Gansu 21.1 km (13.1 mi) 2x1 2006 Lanzhou - Ürümqi Railway(兰新铁路)

8. Lüliangshan Tunnel (吕梁山隧道) Shanxi 20.800 km (12.925 mi) 2x1 2010 Taiyuan - Zhongwei - Yinchuan Railway(太中银铁路)

9. Muzhailing Tunnel (木寨岭隧道) Gansu 19.08 km (11.86 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

10. Qinling Tunnel (秦岭隧道)Shaanxi 18.460 km (11.5 mi) 2x1 2002 Xi'an - Ankang Railway(西康铁路)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:40 AM   #4704
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So in five years it will be possible to get from HK to Shanghai in ten hours!
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Old March 26th, 2012, 04:44 AM   #4705
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#11-20

11. Shilin Tunnel (石林隧道) Yunnan 18.218 km (11.3 mi) 1x2 u/c Kunming - Nanning Railway(云桂铁路)

12. Taihangshan Tunnel (太行山隧道) Shanxi,Henan 18.125 km (11.3 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)

13. Xuefengshan Tunnel (雪峰山隧道)Fujian 17.892 km (11.1 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

14. Xiuling Tunnel (秀岭隧道)Yunnan 17.623 km (11.0 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

15. Gaoganshan Tunnel (高盖山隧道)Fujian 17,612 km (10,943.6 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

16. Zhongtiaoshan Tunnel (中条山隧道) Shanxi 17.35 km (10.8 mi) 2x1 u/c Yuncheng-Sanmengxia Railway (运三铁路)

17. Yongshouliang Tunnel (永寿梁隧道)Shaanxi 17.16 km (10.7 mi) 1x1 2012 Xi'an-Pingliang Railway (西平铁路)

18. Liupanshan Tunnel (六盘山隧道) Gansu 16.719 km (10.4 mi) 1x1 2012 Tianshui-Pingliang Railway (天平铁路)

19. Hadapu Tunnel (哈达铺隧道) Gansu 16.6 km (10.3 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

20. Taiyueshan Tunnel (太岳山隧道) Shanxi 16.194 km (10.1 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:00 AM   #4706
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#21-30
21. Fajiushan Tunnel (发鸠山隧道) Shanxi 16.007 km (9.9 mi) 2x1 2014 Shanxi Central-South Railway (山西中南部通道)

22. Xiangshan Tunnel (象山隧道) Fujian 15.901 km (9.880 mi) 2x1 2011 Longyan-Xiamen Railway (龙厦铁路)

23. Erqingshan Tunnel (二青山隧道) Shanxi 15.851 km (9.8 mi) 2x1 2013 Taiyuan-Xingxian Railway (太兴铁路)

24. Heishan Tunnel (黑山隧道) Gansu 15.764 km (9.795 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway(兰渝铁路)

25. Daiyunshan Tunnel (戴云山隧道)Fujian 15.623 km (9.7 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路)

26. Guanshan Tunnel (关山隧道) Gansu 15.55 km (9.7 mi) 1x1 2012 Tianshui-Pingliang Railway (天平铁路)

27. Liulangshan Tunnel (六狼山隧道) Shanxi 15.175 km (9.4 mi) 1x2 2012 Zhungeer-Shuozhou Railway (准朔铁路)

28. Maotianshan Tunnel (冒天山隧道) Shaanxi 14.915 km (9.3 mi) 1x1 2011 Baotou-Xi'an Railway (包西铁路)

29. Dapoling Tunnel (大坡岭隧道)Yunnan 14.728 km (9.2 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

30. Bibanpo Tunnel (壁板坡隧道)Yunnan 14.7 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 2015 Shanghai-Kunming HSR (沪昆高铁)
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#31-40

31. Yanshan Tunnel (岩山隧道)Guizhou 14.695 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR(贵广高铁)

32. Wuyishan Tunnel (武夷山隧道)Fujian 14.659 km (9.1 mi) 1x2 2012 Xiangtang-Putian Railway(向莆铁路

33. Dazhushan Tunnel (大柱山隧道)Yunnan 14.625 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

34. Sandu Tunnel (三都隧道)Guizhou 14.598 km (9.1 mi) 2x1 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

35. Tianchiping Tunnel (天池坪隧道)Gansu 14.528 km (9.0 mi) 2x1 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway (兰渝铁路)

36. Dayaoshan Tunnel (大瑶山隧道) Guangdong 14.295 km (8.883 mi) 1x2 1987 Beijing - Guangzhou Railroad(京广铁路)

37. Jinguashan Tunnel(金瓜山隧道)Fujian 14.097 km (8.8 mi) 2x1 2012 Xiangtang-Putian)(向莆铁路)

38. YanmengguanTunnel(雁门关隧道)Shanxi 14.085 km (8.8 mi) 1x2 u/c North Datong-Puzhouzhen(北同蒲铁路)

39. Tianpingshan Tunnel (天平山隧道)Guangxi 14.012 km (8.7 mi) 1x2 u/cGuiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

40. Tongmashan Tunnel (同马山隧道)Guizhou 13.929 km (8.7 mi) 1x2 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou Railway (贵广高铁)
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41. Yesanguan Tunnel (野三关隧道)Hubei 13.838 km (8.6 mi) 2x1 2009Yichang-Wanzhou Railway (宜万铁路)

42. Baofengshan Tunnel (宝峰山隧道)Guangxi 13.708 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 u/c Guiyang-Guangzhou HSR (贵广高铁)

43. Humaling Tunnel (胡麻岭隧道)Gansu 13.611 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 2013 Lanzhou-Chongqing Railway (兰渝铁路)

44. North Tianshan Tunnel (北天山隧道)Xinjiang 13.610 km (8.5 mi) 2x1 2009 Jinghe-Yining-Huo Erguosi Railway (精伊霍铁路)

45. Wanshoushan Tunnel (万寿山隧道)Chongqing 13.468 km (8.4 mi) 2x1 2012 Chongqing-Lichuan Railway (渝利铁路)

46. Shanyang Tunnel (杉阳隧道)Yunnan 13.465 km (8.4 mi) 2x1 2013 Dali-Ruili Railway (大瑞铁路)

47. Changhongling Tunnel (长洪岭隧道)Yunnan 13.294 km (8.3 mi) 2012 Chongqing-Lichuan Railway (渝利铁路)

48. Dabieshan Tunnel (大别山隧道)Hubei 13.256 km (8.2 mi) 1x2 2008 Hefei-Wuhan High Speed Railway (合武铁路)

49. Anlu Tunnel (安禄隧道)Yunnan 13.187 km (8.2 mi) 2008 Guanglu-Kunming Railway (广昆铁路)

50. Xiapu Tunnel (霞浦隧道)Fujian 13.099 km (8.1 mi) 1x2 2009 Wenzhou-Fuzhou Railway (温福铁路)
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Old March 26th, 2012, 08:01 AM   #4709
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Thanks for that interesting list General Huo. Nice info.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 08:31 AM   #4710
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Very nice list of long railway tunnels, I didn't realize railway tunnels are that much longer than highway tunnels in China. I would have imagined that there are a lot more long tunnels on the Yichang-Wanzhou line but I guess I'm wrong.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 08:57 AM   #4711
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Railway tunnels don't have the same ventilation (if used by electric trains) and safety (in general) problems of road tunnels, and new railways are as long as possible built with not much more than 1.5% slopes (compared to 5% for motorways) so as not to reduce performance (trains can handle 5% slopes, and even 9% or more, but then their performance drops - in Europe, the same load towed by a single loco on 1% requires 3 locos on 3%, for example).
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:21 AM   #4712
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So in five years it will be possible to get from HK to Shanghai in ten hours!
In 5 years?
Meaning March 2017?

Figuring out the plans and schedules:
1st of April, 2012 - opening direct trains Longhua-Wuhan, 300 km/h on 350 km/h line, fastest train 4:13.

High speed line, 250 km/h, Wuhan-Nanjing exists, but no direct trains travel Guangzhou-Wuhan-Shanghai. When shall such trains start?

In which year shall Longhua-Futian high speed railway and Futian Station open?

Late in 2012, 350 km/h Hangzhou-Ningbo high speed railway opens. After such opening, what shall be the best direct train times Shanghai-Hangzhou-Ningbo-Xiamen?

When in 2013 is Longhua-Xiamen high speed railway due to open?

In 2013, shall any direct trains from Futian station reverse in Longhua Station and continue to Xiamen, Fuzhou and Shanghai? What shall be the best direct train time Futian-Hongqiao?

How is the progress of the 350 km/h railway Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha? In which year shall it open?

In which year shall Futian-West Kowloon High Speed Railway and West Kowloon Station open? 2015 or 2016?

After West Kowloon-Futian High Speed Railway and Changsha-Nanchang-Hangzhou High Speed Railway shall have opened, what shall be the best express direct train time West Kowloon-Futian-Longhua-Guangzhou South-Changsha-Nanchang-Hangzhou-Hongqiao?
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Old April 4th, 2012, 11:13 AM   #4713
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Couple more HXD1D, it's said to be undergoing oval track tests in Beijing.



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Old April 4th, 2012, 03:38 PM   #4714
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Cool loco, looks very German.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #4715
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Do I see an old China Star Loco in the background?
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Old April 4th, 2012, 06:02 PM   #4716
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Yes, I think so.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 07:26 PM   #4717
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The one in the background is actually the DJJ1 Blue Arrow loco, recently returned to the tech center from service at Chengdu Railway Bureau.

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Cool loco, looks very German.
Well, the shell is actually entirely Chinese design, but the original HXD1 (quite different from the current HXD1D) has its roots in the Siemens EuroSprinter.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 01:47 AM   #4720
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^ That image is enormous. Please shrink it, it is probably bigger than any monitor you can buy!
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