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Old February 5th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #5101
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I would say he is a gambler also. Delays is a factor when you have that many connections. But I don't know how he have planned for that.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 04:28 AM   #5102
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actually this guy is a big train fan, he's doing this for fun. it's proved on weibo.



I can't think of other reasons people travel like him.
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Old February 5th, 2013, 04:57 AM   #5103
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The WuHangRong High-Speed Rail

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actually this guy is a big train fan, he's doing this for fun. it's proved on weibo.



I can't think of other reasons people travel like him.
The WuHangRong High-Speed Rail connecting Shanghai in the East Coast to Chengdu in the Southwest through Chongqing is going to be completed later this year--direct trains, G trains traveling at 300km/hr will take 8 hours.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #5104
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I wonder what kind of train goes direct from Shanghai to Deyang. Most of his tickets CRH D- trains.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:00 PM   #5105
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I wonder what kind of train goes direct from Shanghai to Deyang. Most of his tickets CRH D- trains.
K290.

It goes from Shanghai to Xuzhou, Zhengzhou, Xian and Baoji, and then from Baoji via the Baoji-Sichuan railway to Chengdu. Deyang is near the end, the last stop just 61 km from Chengdu towards Baoji.

There are in total 6 direct trains Shanghai-Chengdu:
the said K290, via Baoji 2351 km, time to Chengdu 1:11:57
K1156, via Wuhan, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2153 km, 1:04:28
K696, via Wuhan, Yichang, Enshi, Lichuan, Wanzhou, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2081 km, 1:07:36
K351, via Hangzhou, Nanchang, Wuhan, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2524 km, 1:10:57
K282, via Xuzhou, Zhengzhou, Nanyang, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Guangyuan, Mianyang, 2625 km, 1:15:14
Z122, via Wuhan, Xiangyang, Ankang, Dazhou, 2153 km, 20:29,
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #5106
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actually this guy is a big train fan, he's doing this for fun. it's proved on weibo.
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I can't think of other reasons people travel like him.
I agree, I just assumed that he was traveling for spending as much time with his family. Therefore I found it a little strange to pick a such routing, especially when finding new routes will be difficult if he misses some of his connections.

Btw, are these services prone to delays?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #5107
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The WuHangRong High-Speed Rail connecting Shanghai in the East Coast to Chengdu in the Southwest through Chongqing is going to be completed later this year--direct trains, G trains traveling at 300km/hr will take 8 hours.
Shall it be the recently built, 200 km/h D-only railway upgraded to 300 km/h, or a new parallel line under construction?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:57 PM   #5108
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The WuHangRong High-Speed Rail connecting Shanghai in the East Coast to Chengdu in the Southwest through Chongqing is going to be completed later this year--direct trains, G trains traveling at 300km/hr will take 8 hours.
I've only seen this written down as being a 250 km/h line, and was always quite confused/disappointed by that. Where did you see this was gonna be a 300 km/h line?
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Old February 6th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #5109
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Note that D3006/D3007, to Yichang, actually originates direct from Shanghai. It is the faster train to Yichang, and the second fastest train Shanghai-Wuhan.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 04:18 AM   #5110
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Old February 7th, 2013, 06:25 AM   #5111
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Shall it be the recently built, 200 km/h D-only railway upgraded to 300 km/h, or a new parallel line under construction?
From Chengdu to Chongqing, a third line is being built in addition to the D line and the regular line. Part of it is finished and the rest completed by the end of the year. It will take 1 hour to travel from Chengdu to Chongqing compared to the current 2.5 hr on D trains.
A new line is being built linking Chongqing to Lichuan (Hubei Province) and Lichuan to Yichang and because of the difficult terrain (Karst formation, lots of tunnels and bridges) designed speed is 200km/hr.
The section from Lichuan to Wuhan is up and running at designed speed of up to 250.Wuhan to Hefei is at 250 and Hefei to Nanjing is at 250 also. From Nanjing to Shanghai is 350.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #5112
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Old February 7th, 2013, 01:35 PM   #5113
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A new line is being built linking Chongqing to Lichuan (Hubei Province) and Lichuan to Yichang and because of the difficult terrain (Karst formation, lots of tunnels and bridges) designed speed is 200km/hr.
The section from Lichuan to Wuhan is up and running at designed speed of up to 250.Wuhan to Hefei is at 250 and Hefei to Nanjing is at 250 also. From Nanjing to Shanghai is 350.
To my knowledge, Nanjing-Hefei-Wuhan is designed for 250 km/h, and did run at that speed, but in 2nd Slowdown Campaign, August 2011, was slowed down to 200 km/h, and has not been sped up since, not even to 220 km/h. Nanjing-Shanghai intercity line is designed for 350 km/h, and did run, but was slowed down to 300 km/h in 1st Slowdown Campaign, July 2011, and has not been sped up since, not even to 320 km/h. Nanjing-Shanghai section of Beijing-Shanghai high speed line has designed speed of 380 km/h, but has never exceeded 300 km/h. Wuhan-Yichang section is designed for 250 km/h, but has never exceeded 200 km/h. Yuchang-Lichuan section is up and running but due to the abovesaid hard terrain has design speed 200 km/h.
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Old February 7th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #5114
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About the direct link between Beijing West and Beijing Central. Is there a future for Beijing Central? I assume all non-high speed rail trains will be shutdown in 10 years so the station will eventually be used for something else?
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Old February 8th, 2013, 01:28 AM   #5115
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Old February 8th, 2013, 07:38 AM   #5116
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K290.

It goes from Shanghai to Xuzhou, Zhengzhou, Xian and Baoji, and then from Baoji via the Baoji-Sichuan railway to Chengdu. Deyang is near the end, the last stop just 61 km from Chengdu towards Baoji.

There are in total 6 direct trains Shanghai-Chengdu:
the said K290, via Baoji 2351 km, time to Chengdu 1:11:57
K1156, via Wuhan, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2153 km, 1:04:28
K696, via Wuhan, Yichang, Enshi, Lichuan, Wanzhou, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2081 km, 1:07:36
K351, via Hangzhou, Nanchang, Wuhan, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Dazhou, Nanchong, 2524 km, 1:10:57
K282, via Xuzhou, Zhengzhou, Nanyang, Xiangyang, Shiyan, Ankang, Guangyuan, Mianyang, 2625 km, 1:15:14
Z122, via Wuhan, Xiangyang, Ankang, Dazhou, 2153 km, 20:29,
Wow, those are some long train times for the K trains. 1 day 11 hours and 15 minutes??? Seems to be about as slow or even slower than Amtrak here in the U.S.
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Old February 8th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #5117
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Note that only 2 of the 6 cover the same distance.

Average speeds:
K290 - 65 km/h
K696 - 66 km/h
K351 - 72 km/h
K282 - 67 km/h

K1156 - 76 km/h
Z122 - 105 km/h
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Old February 8th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #5118
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Thanks to big-dog: nice spring pictures. Still some month to wait!
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Old February 9th, 2013, 01:37 AM   #5119
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About the direct link between Beijing West and Beijing Central. Is there a future for Beijing Central? I assume all non-high speed rail trains will be shutdown in 10 years so the station will eventually be used for something else?
Beijing Station in at central Beijing. With the opening of Beijing West, it has eased the heavy load at Beijing Station quite a bit, but it is still a very busy place, with services D trains to Qianhuangdao and Shenyang and many of the K,T and Z trains to Inner Mongolia and Ningxia. I don't think it can be shutdown but it is seriously due for a renovation.

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Old February 9th, 2013, 03:07 AM   #5120
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Instead of shutting down I think we need more railway stations in the center area of a city. That's a major advantage of railway travel (esp. HSR) over flight. In the future railway stations should be extended inward to central locations and made underground, so people living in the city and suburb can both reach railway easily.
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