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Old February 15th, 2013, 06:13 PM   #5141
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When did the Guangzhou-Xiaolan-Xinhui line come into service?
In January 2011, together with Guangzhou-Xiaolan-Zhuhai North line.
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Also isn't the Shanghai-Suzhou really a segment of the Shanghai-Nanjing Intercity Rail?
Yes. It is just that the intercity rail has some trains that terminate or originate at Suzhou.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #5142
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting to know because I thought trains on the Shanghai-Nanjing Line all went the full length. Also knew about a spur line(didn't know where it ended) but the way the Guangzhou-Xinhui line was worded I thought there was a completely separate line from Guangzhou to Xinhui.

China is really getting their act together when it comes to long distance and local high speed rail.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #5143
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People return from Chinese New Year holiday, another big time for Chinse Railways

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China's railways brace for post-holiday travel rush
Updated: 2013-02-15 13:36
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BEIJING -- China's railways will be tested Friday, when passenger flows peak at the end of the Spring Festival holiday.

Some 7.41 million trips will be made on the country's railways with travelers returning to work as the week-long Lunar New Year celebration draws to a close, the Ministry of Railways said.

The ministry deployed 783 temporary trains on Friday to cope with increasing demand for seats.

The Spring Festival, an important occasion for Chinese family reunions, marks the world's largest annual human migration. This year's travel season kicked off on January 26 and will last until March 6.

The ministry forecast that a total 224.5 million trips would be made on railways during the travel season, representing a daily average travel volume of 5.61 million.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 07:42 AM   #5144
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Spire rail, at Yangjiaozhan on Qinghai-Tibet railway



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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:49 AM   #5145
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Spire rail, at Yangjiaozhan on Qinghai-Tibet railway
Hummm... can anyone explain me the rationale in this?
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:59 AM   #5146
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lifting the train up to a new height.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 11:44 AM   #5147
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China's railways brace for post-holiday travel rush

Updated: 2013-02-15 13:49
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BEIJING - China's railways will be tested Friday, when passenger flows peak at the end of the Spring Festival holiday.


Yinchuan railway station in Ningxia Hui autonomous region sees passenger flows peak on Feb 15, 2013. [Photo/Xinhua]



Some 7.41 million trips will be made on the country's railways with travelers returning to work as the week-long Lunar New Year celebration draws to a close, the Ministry of Railways said.

The ministry deployed 783 temporary trains on Friday to cope with increasing demand for seats.

The Spring Festival, an important occasion for Chinese family reunions, marks the world's largest annual human migration. This year's travel season kicked off on January 26 and will last until March 6.

The ministry forecast that a total 224.5 million trips would be made on railways during the travel season, representing a daily average travel volume of 5.61 million.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:53 PM   #5148
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lifting the train up to a new height.
Why is it then that the rails in the viaduct area (where the train is at the moment the pic was taken) look to be about at the same altitude as the rails in the background (where they are crossed by the road for the second time)???
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Old February 16th, 2013, 03:34 PM   #5149
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It only looks the same altitude, I guess there's a slope in between, so the road is not winding a flat way either.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #5150
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Jinshan Railway (Shanghai Metro Line 22) is not really part of the official metro system it is more of a commuter/suburban rail. The designation is a promotion campaign by the Shanghai government to get people to notice.
On closer reflection, Jinshan railway is proven to be a joke.

It is a high speed (sic!) railway. Its length is 55 km (sic!). The all stop trains make 6 (sic!) intermediate stops - and the trip time is 1:00!!! It means 55 km/h average speed, for a high speed train!
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Old February 16th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #5151
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On closer reflection, Jinshan railway is proven to be a joke.

It is a high speed (sic!) railway. Its length is 55 km (sic!). The all stop trains make 6 (sic!) intermediate stops - and the trip time is 1:00!!! It means 55 km/h average speed, for a high speed train!
Who said it's a high speed railway? Looks like an ordinary commuter line albeit not a particularly fast one (similar length routes in Switzerland take 45-50 min).
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Old February 16th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #5152
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Who said it's a high speed railway? Looks like an ordinary commuter line albeit not a particularly fast one (similar length routes in Switzerland take 45-50 min).
Well, the trains are designated C.

In my area, a commuter rail line with just 120 km/h top speed, and EMU trainsets of limited acceleration (we are finally getting better ones), has 57 km length. And express trains make 6 intermediate stops - in 46...48 minutes.
Non-express trains take 56...58 minutes, and make 5 more stops, total 11.

So, the Jinshan railway is a slow commuter railway.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #5153
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On closer reflection, Jinshan railway is proven to be a joke.

It is a high speed (sic!) railway. Its length is 55 km (sic!). The all stop trains make 6 (sic!) intermediate stops - and the trip time is 1:00!!! It means 55 km/h average speed, for a high speed train!
The train runs at 160km/h which is much faster than any other commuter rail line I know of. I thought there was an express train that makes the run in 32 minutes. Compare to trains like the Chicago area Metra or Dallas/Ft Worth Trinity Railway Express it looks like the Jinshan railway is serious business, no joke by any means.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #5154
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The train runs at 160km/h which is much faster than any other commuter rail line I know of. I thought there was an express train that makes the run in 32 minutes. Compare to trains like the Chicago area Metra or Dallas/Ft Worth Trinity Railway Express it looks like the Jinshan railway is serious business, no joke by any means.
If true then it's a waste. Commuter trains which stop once in ca 10 km like these ones derive very little benefit from such a high top speed. Standard 100 or 120 km/h would have been just fine.

Besides as discussed above it's a relatively slow line even for commuter service. I don't know maybe in Chicago or Dallas commuter lines are even slower, but there are many faster ones in Western Europe (on average speed).
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Old February 16th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #5155
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I don't understand why the line is making a circle. It could go straight.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #5156
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I don't understand why the line is making a circle. It could go straight.
Perhaps to reduce the incline. This may be important for freight trains.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #5157
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@ Gadiri; read this.
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Old February 17th, 2013, 02:42 AM   #5158
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I don't understand why the line is making a circle. It could go straight.
there is a high way ,railway across with high way, so makeing a circle ,like a crossbridge
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Old February 17th, 2013, 04:51 AM   #5159
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Spring Festival holiday sees 440m trips

Updated: 2013-02-17 01:35
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BEIJING - Chinese made 440 million trips during the Spring Festival holiday, which lasted from February 9 to 15, transportation authorities said Saturday.

Railways handled 34.68 million trips with a year-on-year increase of 3 million trips, according to the Ministry of Railways (MOR).

Highway and water-based transport saw 399 million trips, up over 50 million trips compared with 2012, while the number of air-based trips rose 18 percent year-on-year to 6.42 million, the Ministry of Transport said.

Passenger flows peaked on Friday, with 7.4 million railway trips made by travelers returning to work, the ministry said.

The MOR added 783 temporary trains to the tracks to cope with the post-holiday travel rush.

Railway traffic has generally been orderly, the ministry said.
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I don't understand why the line is making a circle. It could go straight.
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