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Old July 12th, 2015, 03:18 PM   #5861
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2. China-Thailand border railway
There is no such border.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 05:40 PM   #5862
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There is no such border.
I meant China-Laos-Thailand railway
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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #5863
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I assume you are referring to the proposed HSR or MSR from Kunming to Bangkok via Vietianne?

Not just to the national borders.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 05:59 PM   #5864
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where can I find a China railway map, that have every station in details.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 01:21 AM   #5865
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Beijing rolls out big plans for regional rail network

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Capital unveils scheme for massive network to connect the city with Tianjin and Hebei to ease congestion and overcrowding in the capital.

A 1,000km suburban railway network will be built around Beijing to link the capital with neighbouring Tianjin and Hebei province, the city's transport authority said late Monday.

The plan is part of an infrastructure overhaul to encourage the integration of the three regions and help to relieve the overpopulated and congested capital of non-core functions.

Beijing's population had reached 21.5 million at the end of last year, including 8.18 million migrants, official figures show.

The proposed rail network for the Beijing-Hebei-Tianjin area comprises four layers: arterial lines, intercity and suburban links and urban subways.

Suburban links will serve commuters travelling up to 70km.

The first route in the network will be the 72km Pinggu Line, linking central Beijing to the suburb of Pinggu, through Hebei's Yanjiao township.

The arterial rail lines will connect areas that are more than 150km apart, while the intercity lines will link major cities that are between 70km and 150km apart.

Up to 27km of new subway lines will be built in Beijing this year to extend the network to 554km.

The subway's average speed will be between 60km/h and 70km/h, while suburban trains will reach a top speed of 160km/h because of the longer distances between stations.

"This means the travelling speed [of suburban rail services] will dramatically increase," said Zhou Zhengyu, director of the Beijing Municipal Commission of Transport. "The trains will be expected to finish the whole journey in 40 to 50 minutes."

Zhou said the 1,000km subway network and the 1,000km suburban rail links would together form the main part of Beijing's future rail network.
Read in the: South China Morning Post
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Old July 15th, 2015, 04:22 AM   #5866
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"The subway's average speed will be between 60km/h and 70km/h"

They mean maximum speed.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 08:48 AM   #5867
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First real large scale project for commuter rail in China.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 09:37 AM   #5868
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Suburban links will serve commuters travelling up to 70km.
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The arterial rail lines will connect areas that are more than 150km apart, while the intercity lines will link major cities that are between 70km and 150km apart.
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The first route in the network will be the 72km Pinggu Line, linking central Beijing to the suburb of Pinggu, through Hebei's Yanjiao township.
Is Pinggu a "major city"?
Is Pinggu Line an intercity line?
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Old July 16th, 2015, 10:37 AM   #5869
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First real large scale project for commuter rail in China.
So what are the metros then?
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Old July 16th, 2015, 01:49 PM   #5870
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So what are the metros then?
Rapid transit.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:24 PM   #5871
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Rapid transit.
Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Tianjin, Shenzen. Just imagine 10,000 km of commuter rail. Does the PRC even NEED so much railway network? We are living in an era where we have work to home concepts. Isn't it time to cut down urban sprawl and go for compact cities?
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:47 PM   #5872
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Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Tianjin, Shenzen. Just imagine 10,000 km of commuter rail. Does the PRC even NEED so much railway network? We are living in an era where we have work to home concepts. Isn't it time to cut down urban sprawl and go for compact cities?
That is an Utopian concept, at least for now.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:48 PM   #5873
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So what are the metros then?
There is a distinction between metro and commuter rails. For some it is trivial for some others and me it is significant.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 09:50 PM   #5874
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Again the spectacular Lhasa-Xigazê(Shigatse) railway
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Old July 18th, 2015, 10:55 AM   #5875
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City eyes hub role in coffee trade
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Chongqing banks on railway freight links to expand business connections with Europe

China expects its railway links with Europe to give a much-needed impetus in making the nation an important coffee trading hub in Southeast Asia.

Yunnan-based coffee producer Hogood Coffee Co said on Thursday that it would use the Chongqing-Xinjiang-Europe (known as YuXinOu in Chinese) international railway line for exporting coffee products to Europe as it not only cuts costs, but also saves time.

The 11,000-kilometer Asia-Europe rail link, which started operating in 2011, passes through Xi'an, Lanzhou, Urumqi and the Alataw Pass, where it crosses the border into Kazakhstan. It then continues through Russia, Belarus and Poland before ending in Duisburg, Germany.

The journey takes about 14 days, one third of the time taken by the maritime route. The rail link is now the busiest cargo freight route between China and Europe, according to the Chongqing YuXinOu Logistics Company.

Hogood, established in 2007, owns a quarter of the coffee plantations in the country and is the largest instant coffee producer in China, with an annual output of 13,000 tons. It also accounts for about half of China's coffee exports and has among its clients major brands including Nescafe, Maxwell and Kraft.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #5876
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Is Pinggu a "major city"?
Is Pinggu Line an intercity line?
Well, there is such a thing as google and wikipedia what will give an answer faster than you can post on skyscrapercity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinggu_District
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Old July 18th, 2015, 11:47 AM   #5877
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How much of the system is planned for Tianjin Municipality?
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Old July 18th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #5878
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Well, there is such a thing as google and wikipedia what will give an answer faster than you can post on skyscrapercity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinggu_District
As you might notice, I was answering specific quotes.

So, how about the second question? Is there a Wikipedia article for "Pinggu Line"?
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Old July 19th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #5879
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So, how about the second question? Is there a Wikipedia article for "Pinggu Line"?
Even though it's technically over 70km thus should belong to intercity line territory, it's not linked to a city and at just 70km it's considered a suburban line. Originally it was conceived as a metro line.
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Old July 20th, 2015, 06:10 AM   #5880
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First real large scale project for commuter rail in China.
No the PRD commuter rail network is.
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